Dear David

Dan can and will do what he likes, or what you like David, whichever. I cannot support banning Pat for making a fool of himself, or our Lord. Even though I am all to often(and incorrectly lumped in with him), and he pisses me off regularly(which he intends to do), I just cannot support banning him.

Count me out too if you ban Pat. It's a principle thing. But hey, look at the upside, you could get rid of me too!-)

I would however second the suggestion of ignoring Pat. For a time, I quit reading his posts entirely. He has stated he intends to incite and that he makes stuff up maybe 20% of the time. I'm alright with instigating discussion. I post articles I don't agree with for the purpose of drawing perspective from the rest of y'all but Pat has stated his intent is malicious(just to piss someone off) and although I do not support that I cannot support his banning as this is a public place, not a private club.

for what it's worth there's my 2¢