KentDB741
location: Buffalo, New York USA
listening to: The sweet music of YES
registered: 2001.11.12
posts: 1355
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Kevin:Thank you for having the courage to say what needed to be said.
Now that you have begun the conversation, allow me to add some
comments about this matter.There has been some behind the scenes manuvering going on
here for quite some time --- for instance --- Dan has been
threatening me via private e-mail to "remove all my messages
from the board." However, if he did this he would completely ruin
the entire thing that so many people look forward to reading on a
daily basis --- including me.Dan must have decided that he could not remove all of my
messages --- for the following reasons:01) I am the most frequent poster here, and among the most read
of all people who have ever stopped by and posted messages
here.02) As has been pointed out by many of the members here to me
in private e-mail --- I do get people thinking and the threads I
start are usually among the most populated and commented
upon.And then there is Pat . . . I have had at least ten to fifteen messages that I have posted here
removed by Pat shortly after my having posted them. The most
recent example of this was the other night when I posted a
message about MARGIE SHOEDINGER, a woman who had filed
rape and child molestation charges against George Bu$h Jr. ---
this woman committed suicide (or was murdered) because of what
was done to her after the charges were filed in December 2002.I suspect this is being done by Pat because he is a neo-con and is
a lover of Junior and his police state dictatorship. Also, when Dan and Pat were shopping around for a DVD
mastering company --- I sent both of them multiple e-mails
informing them of a place where they could get the DB DVD's
made for as little as $1.99 for each copy. I never even got a
response or an acknowledgement of my suggestion. And then there is the matter of the QUOTES SECTION which is
littered with ANTI-KDB messages. Even when DB himself
commented that I changed my mind about being here and that he
didn't see a problem with that --- even then they didn't stop.The other night when visiting the site --- I experienced TEN
QUOTES IN A ROW that were all anti-KDB messages. I felt that this
was strange, especially seeing as how this is supposed to be
RANDOM. I am also the most frequent poster to the quotes
section. The quotes I put up were not invectives against other
DBIS members, but sincere and thought-provoking ideas, about
which it was my hope they would get people to think.Recently, when doing the annual holiday cards mailing I counted
fifteen people here at the DBIS with whom I have become good
friends. These are people who gave me their personal home
address and phone numbers. With these people, I have regular
off-site communications and ongoing discussions about all sorts
of things.When I posted a message announcing that it was my last-ever
message to this board --- I truly did not intend on returning. This
was because of constant problems with Pat, Dale, Dan, and one or
two others. However, I got a bunch of e-mails from the fifteen
people I mentioned above --- all asking me to reconsider my
decision to leave for good. One of these people stayed away for
several months because of these ongoing problems.I have also been accused of all sorts of things --- scaring away
potential members, alienating the people who are here, and this
degenerated to my being accused of outright lying and fabricating
TRUTH. All of this is silliness, and has been a rather half-assed
attempt at discrediting me.However, DB himself has posted a few times about how he
welcomes what I am doing, and when I DID LEAVE for five months
the last time, I received messages from an intermediary asking me
to return on his behalf, as well as on behalf of the individual
sending the message.Yes --- it is quite sad that it has come to this. However, as
everyone here can see for themselves --- I am quite civil in tone
and presentation --- until I am attacked. Then --- I will protect
myself to the fullest my skill in communicating allows.Even when I was absent --- the vitriol still flew on a regular basis.
So, it couldn't be blamed on me, otherwise this would have
disappeared when I did. However, this isn't what happened . . . I have also been accused of HIDING BEHIND aliases. However, the
one alias I did willingly use --- MASON LANG --- I gave
permission to one of my friends here to reveal who Mason really
was. Anyone who thought for a moment KNEW who MASON really
was.Here is the whole thing in a nutshell . . . What I have succeeded in doing is present another version of truth
and reality --- Dan for instance seems quite disturbed that I have
actually converted a few who were on the fence. This is the reason
why he has been posting all those "SHOW ME THE PROOF!" type
messages.When I present ideas --- I provide the "footnotes" right in the
messages. Anyone can look them up for themselves --- and that
is why I do it. I have gotten three people interested in the
important ideas of JOHN TAYLOR GATTO for one example.However, what people who bash me don't realize is they only
make themselves look silly, more than they take away my
credibility. So, true to form, Dan will bitch about this message, and Pat will
more than likely take it down the next time he is online.I represent DANGER because I offer alternate and more reasonable
and more likely explanations for world events --- doing my best
to destory consensus-reality each and every time I am online. KDB = Buffalo, NY USA
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KentDB741
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Kevin:Thank you for having the courage to say what needed to be said.
Now that you have begun the conversation, allow me to add some
comments about this matter.There has been some behind the scenes manuvering going on
here for quite some time --- for instance --- Dan has been
threatening me via private e-mail to "remove all my messages
from the board." However, if he did this he would completely ruin
the entire thing that so many people look forward to reading on a
daily basis --- including me.Dan must have decided that he could not remove all of my
messages --- for the following reasons:01) I am the most frequent poster here, and among the most read
of all people who have ever stopped by and posted messages
here.02) As has been pointed out by many of the members here to me
in private e-mail --- I do get people thinking and the threads I
start are usually among the most populated and commented
upon.And then there is Pat . . . I have had at least ten to fifteen messages that I have posted here
removed by Pat shortly after my having posted them. The most
recent example of this was the other night when I posted a
message about MARGIE SHOEDINGER, a woman who had filed
rape and child molestation charges against George Bu$h Jr. ---
this woman committed suicide (or was murdered) because of what
was done to her after the charges were filed in December 2002.I suspect this is being done by Pat because he is a neo-con and is
a lover of Junior and his police state dictatorship. Also, when Dan and Pat were shopping around for a DVD
mastering company --- I sent both of them multiple e-mails
informing them of a place where they could get the DB DVD's
made for as little as $1.99 for each copy. I never even got a
response or an acknowledgement of my suggestion. And then there is the matter of the QUOTES SECTION which is
littered with ANTI-KDB messages. Even when DB himself
commented that I changed my mind about being here and that he
didn't see a problem with that --- even then they didn't stop.The other night when visiting the site --- I experienced TEN
QUOTES IN A ROW that were all anti-KDB messages. I felt that this
was strange, especially seeing as how this is supposed to be
RANDOM. I am also the most frequent poster to the quotes
section. The quotes I put up were not invectives against other
DBIS members, but sincere and thought-provoking ideas, about
which it was my hope they would get people to think.Recently, when doing the annual holiday cards mailing I counted
fifteen people here at the DBIS with whom I have become good
friends. These are people who gave me their personal home
address and phone numbers. With these people, I have regular
off-site communications and ongoing discussions about all sorts
of things.When I posted a message announcing that it was my last-ever
message to this board --- I truly did not intend on returning. This
was because of constant problems with Pat, Dale, Dan, and one or
two others. However, I got a bunch of e-mails from the fifteen
people I mentioned above --- all asking me to reconsider my
decision to leave for good. One of these people stayed away for
several months because of these ongoing problems.I have also been accused of all sorts of things --- scaring away
potential members, alienating the people who are here, and this
degenerated to my being accused of outright lying and fabricating
TRUTH. All of this is silliness, and has been a rather half-assed
attempt at discrediting me.However, DB himself has posted a few times about how he
welcomes what I am doing, and when I DID LEAVE for five months
the last time, I received messages from an intermediary asking me
to return on his behalf, as well as on behalf of the individual
sending the message.Yes --- it is quite sad that it has come to this. However, as
everyone here can see for themselves --- I am quite civil in tone
and presentation --- until I am attacked. Then --- I will protect
myself to the fullest my skill in communicating allows.Even when I was absent --- the vitriol still flew on a regular basis.
So, it couldn't be blamed on me, otherwise this would have
disappeared when I did. However, this isn't what happened . . . I have also been accused of HIDING BEHIND aliases. However, the
one alias I did willingly use --- MASON LANG --- I gave
permission to one of my friends here to reveal who Mason really
was. Anyone who thought for a moment KNEW who MASON really
was.Here is the whole thing in a nutshell . . . What I have succeeded in doing is present another version of truth
and reality --- Dan for instance seems quite disturbed that I have
actually converted a few who were on the fence. This is the reason
why he has been posting all those "SHOW ME THE PROOF!" type
messages.When I present ideas --- I provide the "footnotes" right in the
messages. Anyone can look them up for themselves --- and that
is why I do it. I have gotten three people interested in the
important ideas of JOHN TAYLOR GATTO for one example.However, what people who bash me don't realize is they only
make themselves look silly, more than they take away my
credibility. So, true to form, Dan will bitch about this message, and Pat will
more than likely take it down the next time he is online.I represent DANGER because I offer alternate and more reasonable
and more likely explanations for world events --- doing my best
to destory consensus-reality each and every time I am online. KDB = Buffalo, NY USA
