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Kevin:

Thank you for having the courage to say what needed to be said. Now that you have begun the conversation, allow me to add some comments about this matter.

There has been some behind the scenes manuvering going on here for quite some time --- for instance --- Dan has been threatening me via private e-mail to "remove all my messages from the board." However, if he did this he would completely ruin the entire thing that so many people look forward to reading on a daily basis --- including me.

Dan must have decided that he could not remove all of my messages --- for the following reasons:

01) I am the most frequent poster here, and among the most read of all people who have ever stopped by and posted messages here.

02) As has been pointed out by many of the members here to me in private e-mail --- I do get people thinking and the threads I start are usually among the most populated and commented upon.

And then there is Pat . . .

I have had at least ten to fifteen messages that I have posted here removed by Pat shortly after my having posted them. The most recent example of this was the other night when I posted a message about MARGIE SHOEDINGER, a woman who had filed rape and child molestation charges against George Bu$h Jr. --- this woman committed suicide (or was murdered) because of what was done to her after the charges were filed in December 2002.

I suspect this is being done by Pat because he is a neo-con and is a lover of Junior and his police state dictatorship.

Also, when Dan and Pat were shopping around for a DVD mastering company --- I sent both of them multiple e-mails informing them of a place where they could get the DB DVD's made for as little as $1.99 for each copy. I never even got a response or an acknowledgement of my suggestion.

And then there is the matter of the QUOTES SECTION which is littered with ANTI-KDB messages. Even when DB himself commented that I changed my mind about being here and that he didn't see a problem with that --- even then they didn't stop.

The other night when visiting the site --- I experienced TEN QUOTES IN A ROW that were all anti-KDB messages. I felt that this was strange, especially seeing as how this is supposed to be RANDOM. I am also the most frequent poster to the quotes section. The quotes I put up were not invectives against other DBIS members, but sincere and thought-provoking ideas, about which it was my hope they would get people to think.

Recently, when doing the annual holiday cards mailing I counted fifteen people here at the DBIS with whom I have become good friends. These are people who gave me their personal home address and phone numbers. With these people, I have regular off-site communications and ongoing discussions about all sorts of things.

When I posted a message announcing that it was my last-ever message to this board --- I truly did not intend on returning. This was because of constant problems with Pat, Dale, Dan, and one or two others. However, I got a bunch of e-mails from the fifteen people I mentioned above --- all asking me to reconsider my decision to leave for good. One of these people stayed away for several months because of these ongoing problems.

I have also been accused of all sorts of things --- scaring away potential members, alienating the people who are here, and this degenerated to my being accused of outright lying and fabricating TRUTH. All of this is silliness, and has been a rather half-assed attempt at discrediting me.

However, DB himself has posted a few times about how he welcomes what I am doing, and when I DID LEAVE for five months the last time, I received messages from an intermediary asking me to return on his behalf, as well as on behalf of the individual sending the message.

Yes --- it is quite sad that it has come to this. However, as everyone here can see for themselves --- I am quite civil in tone and presentation --- until I am attacked. Then --- I will protect myself to the fullest my skill in communicating allows.

Even when I was absent --- the vitriol still flew on a regular basis. So, it couldn't be blamed on me, otherwise this would have disappeared when I did.

However, this isn't what happened . . .

I have also been accused of HIDING BEHIND aliases. However, the one alias I did willingly use --- MASON LANG --- I gave permission to one of my friends here to reveal who Mason really was. Anyone who thought for a moment KNEW who MASON really was.

Here is the whole thing in a nutshell . . .

What I have succeeded in doing is present another version of truth and reality --- Dan for instance seems quite disturbed that I have actually converted a few who were on the fence. This is the reason why he has been posting all those "SHOW ME THE PROOF!" type messages.

When I present ideas --- I provide the "footnotes" right in the messages. Anyone can look them up for themselves --- and that is why I do it. I have gotten three people interested in the important ideas of JOHN TAYLOR GATTO for one example.

However, what people who bash me don't realize is they only make themselves look silly, more than they take away my credibility.

So, true to form, Dan will bitch about this message, and Pat will more than likely take it down the next time he is online.

I represent DANGER because I offer alternate and more reasonable and more likely explanations for world events --- doing my best to destory consensus-reality each and every time I am online.

KDB = Buffalo, NY USA
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