First, for those of you who might be wondering,
I dont know the man, obviously, but David Icke
seems to me to be a bit of a self-aggrandizing
nutter. I've known a few guys sort of like him
over the years, (one does, when one gets into
the alternate history world)and actually liked a
lot of them personally, but I'll never forget what
happened to one of them...He'd spent decades, literally, gathering
documents, getting copies of FOIA stuff, building
a world view, and it was pretty compelling, when
he presented it to you. I saw him speak a
number of times and even entertained him at
my home. Another friend of mine got him some
media attention, and not long after the riots of 92
found himself on the Arsenio Hall Show, which I
think was on NBC. That little bit of attention
revealed in him a terrifying bent towards tyranny
and violence, much like he'd been railing
against, just as long as he could run the show.
In other words, he didnt hate Big Brother. He
wanted to be him.I'm inclined rather to believe that the four
horsemen of our particular apocalypse have
more humble explanations than Icke offers,
namely our old friends Greed, Fear, Ignorance,
and Power. I think almost any evil human
activity can be better understood if one whips
oneself into a frenzy of the above, and 20
centuries of murder, slavery, rapine and
plunder become understandable, if not
necessarily OK. I think that what a lot of people who get deeply
into conspiracy history, (or alternate history, as I
prefer to call it) are doing is trying to get at the
Root Of The Evil. If they could only find the root,
they could tear it out, and humanity
could re enter Eden, together.It's a fond hope--if it's a small group of evildoers
who are to blame, why then all we need do is
find them, arrest them, and interrogate them
until they reveal the branches and stems of their
evil doings. That may be a good idea on
principle, but even if you could find the
evildoers, it wouldnt wipe out evil. Most likely,
you would yourself become as insular, ruthless,
and megalomaniacal as both Bin Laden and
Cheney, or whoever your favorite bad guys are.I compare Icke and my unnamed friend's, um,
viewpoints with another friend of mine, Michael
Ruppert, who was at one point possibly in
danger of becoming a bit demagogical, but
managed overall to resist the temptation,
because he recognised that his true strength lay
in his humility and sincere desire for the truth of
any given situation. As a result, he's
surrounded himself with strong-minded and
distinctly unsycophantic people who provide a
good ballast for the inevitable ego-rush that
comes after having long-despised views come
into vogue, and is thus able to continue to do
valuable work. Icke, conversely displays a distinctly demagogic,
cult-leader sort of mentality, and even if its true
that Kris Kristofferson drinks virgin blood (which
I kind of doubt, but who knows), or that Barbara
Bush is a giant lizard in disguise (could be, you
never know), Icke would be better served by
letting those particular facts emerge to be
proven in an indisputable way, and instead
focus on the more sane-sounding stuff, lest he
be considered a wacko of the highest order.Why look further than the coming oil crisis for
an understanding of why we're heading into the
Middle East again?Why look further than a growth-dependent
global economy and population growth for our
environmental woes?Anyway, I didnt intend to go on so long on that, I
just felt like I should put my two cents in.No offense, Kent. I understand very well your
passion. I just think it might be a little
misplaced. On to musical news, exciting things are
burbling with the orchestra. What we are going
to do is 6 separate shows in a local club, I'm not
sure which, over the course of which we will
learn 72 songs, plus instrumental segues.
We're starting with a smaller crew: 4 strings, 2
brass, two woodwind, orchestral percussion
and mallets, pianist, a keyboardist, and the
NFU, building in size until we arrive at the ideal
one. At the end of the six-month run, we're
going to move the now-complete orchestra onto
a soundstage for probably about ten days. We'll
dress the room magnificently, and light it
gorgeously, and bring in some very high-quality
recording and digital video equipment. There
we'll both film and record each show, one nighrt
at a time. Each show will have a particular
theme, and songs will be picked dependent on
that evening's theme. What we'll end up with at
the end, God willing, is 1) six CD's each with
twelve songs, 2) a filmed live performance of the
orchestra. and 3) a documentary on how it all
goes. The results of those ten days will be what
we make available to the public for sale. All
performances leading up to that will be
considered primarily rehearsals and wont be
made available. But you'll have a pretty good
idea what youre getting at that point. I'm pretty
tickled about the whole thing, myself.So there you go,I see four fingers,Winston
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First, for those of you who might be wondering,
I dont know the man, obviously, but David Icke
seems to me to be a bit of a self-aggrandizing
nutter. I've known a few guys sort of like him
over the years, (one does, when one gets into
the alternate history world)and actually liked a
lot of them personally, but I'll never forget what
happened to one of them...He'd spent decades, literally, gathering
documents, getting copies of FOIA stuff, building
a world view, and it was pretty compelling, when
he presented it to you. I saw him speak a
number of times and even entertained him at
my home. Another friend of mine got him some
media attention, and not long after the riots of 92
found himself on the Arsenio Hall Show, which I
think was on NBC. That little bit of attention
revealed in him a terrifying bent towards tyranny
and violence, much like he'd been railing
against, just as long as he could run the show.
In other words, he didnt hate Big Brother. He
wanted to be him.I'm inclined rather to believe that the four
horsemen of our particular apocalypse have
more humble explanations than Icke offers,
namely our old friends Greed, Fear, Ignorance,
and Power. I think almost any evil human
activity can be better understood if one whips
oneself into a frenzy of the above, and 20
centuries of murder, slavery, rapine and
plunder become understandable, if not
necessarily OK. I think that what a lot of people who get deeply
into conspiracy history, (or alternate history, as I
prefer to call it) are doing is trying to get at the
Root Of The Evil. If they could only find the root,
they could tear it out, and humanity
could re enter Eden, together.It's a fond hope--if it's a small group of evildoers
who are to blame, why then all we need do is
find them, arrest them, and interrogate them
until they reveal the branches and stems of their
evil doings. That may be a good idea on
principle, but even if you could find the
evildoers, it wouldnt wipe out evil. Most likely,
you would yourself become as insular, ruthless,
and megalomaniacal as both Bin Laden and
Cheney, or whoever your favorite bad guys are.I compare Icke and my unnamed friend's, um,
viewpoints with another friend of mine, Michael
Ruppert, who was at one point possibly in
danger of becoming a bit demagogical, but
managed overall to resist the temptation,
because he recognised that his true strength lay
in his humility and sincere desire for the truth of
any given situation. As a result, he's
surrounded himself with strong-minded and
distinctly unsycophantic people who provide a
good ballast for the inevitable ego-rush that
comes after having long-despised views come
into vogue, and is thus able to continue to do
valuable work. Icke, conversely displays a distinctly demagogic,
cult-leader sort of mentality, and even if its true
that Kris Kristofferson drinks virgin blood (which
I kind of doubt, but who knows), or that Barbara
Bush is a giant lizard in disguise (could be, you
never know), Icke would be better served by
letting those particular facts emerge to be
proven in an indisputable way, and instead
focus on the more sane-sounding stuff, lest he
be considered a wacko of the highest order.Why look further than the coming oil crisis for
an understanding of why we're heading into the
Middle East again?Why look further than a growth-dependent
global economy and population growth for our
environmental woes?Anyway, I didnt intend to go on so long on that, I
just felt like I should put my two cents in.No offense, Kent. I understand very well your
passion. I just think it might be a little
misplaced. On to musical news, exciting things are
burbling with the orchestra. What we are going
to do is 6 separate shows in a local club, I'm not
sure which, over the course of which we will
learn 72 songs, plus instrumental segues.
We're starting with a smaller crew: 4 strings, 2
brass, two woodwind, orchestral percussion
and mallets, pianist, a keyboardist, and the
NFU, building in size until we arrive at the ideal
one. At the end of the six-month run, we're
going to move the now-complete orchestra onto
a soundstage for probably about ten days. We'll
dress the room magnificently, and light it
gorgeously, and bring in some very high-quality
recording and digital video equipment. There
we'll both film and record each show, one nighrt
at a time. Each show will have a particular
theme, and songs will be picked dependent on
that evening's theme. What we'll end up with at
the end, God willing, is 1) six CD's each with
twelve songs, 2) a filmed live performance of the
orchestra. and 3) a documentary on how it all
goes. The results of those ten days will be what
we make available to the public for sale. All
performances leading up to that will be
considered primarily rehearsals and wont be
made available. But you'll have a pretty good
idea what youre getting at that point. I'm pretty
tickled about the whole thing, myself.So there you go,I see four fingers,Winston
