willis
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listening to: quickened heartbeats
registered: 2002.11.17
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okay. i have to respond.the "pragmatic vote" debate was big in alaska this
year. everyone thought the governor's race was
going to be close. everyone said the green party
should bow out to elect the "lesser of two evils"
democrat. all the nader 2000 arguments were
polished off and amplified.in the end, it wasn't close.
the republican long-time senator frank murkowski
won. as did many republicans for state congress.i voted nader in 2000, but it didn't matter (?)
because bush cleaned up in alaska. i didn't vote
for the green candidate yesterday, very much along
"lesser of two evils" lines.VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE is a big rallying cry, but it's a bit silly to think that this means voting
for your number 1 choice, regardless of his/her chances. if your conscience tells
you that a vote AGAINST the worst candidate is more
valuable than a vote FOR your favourite candidate,
then your conscience will VERY VERY PRAGMATICALLY
tell you to vote for the most likely opponent to
your worst enemy.which brings me to my enlightening message:
if you don't know about INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING,
you will probably hear about it in the future.
it is championed by 3rd parties, as it eliminates
the above-mentioned conundrum of conscience.
ranking of candidates allows a person to express
both his 1st choice and his major-party choice
(and any other choices). the state of alaska
voted on IRV in the primary in august. it lost.
but the only legit arguments i've heard are:
(1) it's cost/need ratio is too great, and
(2) it's different. louisiana is now going to have a runoff election
because no candidate got more than 50% of the vote
for U.S. senator.
Instant Runoff Voting does the same thing,
in one election. minus the intermediate time to
campaign more, etc., etc.there's a lot of IRV voting reform stuff going on
around the country (vermont, massachusetts, san francisco). you'll continue to hear about it...
willis
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okay. i have to respond.the "pragmatic vote" debate was big in alaska this
year. everyone thought the governor's race was
going to be close. everyone said the green party
should bow out to elect the "lesser of two evils"
democrat. all the nader 2000 arguments were
polished off and amplified.in the end, it wasn't close.
the republican long-time senator frank murkowski
won. as did many republicans for state congress.i voted nader in 2000, but it didn't matter (?)
because bush cleaned up in alaska. i didn't vote
for the green candidate yesterday, very much along
"lesser of two evils" lines.VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE is a big rallying cry, but it's a bit silly to think that this means voting
for your number 1 choice, regardless of his/her chances. if your conscience tells
you that a vote AGAINST the worst candidate is more
valuable than a vote FOR your favourite candidate,
then your conscience will VERY VERY PRAGMATICALLY
tell you to vote for the most likely opponent to
your worst enemy.which brings me to my enlightening message:
if you don't know about INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING,
you will probably hear about it in the future.
it is championed by 3rd parties, as it eliminates
the above-mentioned conundrum of conscience.
ranking of candidates allows a person to express
both his 1st choice and his major-party choice
(and any other choices). the state of alaska
voted on IRV in the primary in august. it lost.
but the only legit arguments i've heard are:
(1) it's cost/need ratio is too great, and
(2) it's different. louisiana is now going to have a runoff election
because no candidate got more than 50% of the vote
for U.S. senator.
Instant Runoff Voting does the same thing,
in one election. minus the intermediate time to
campaign more, etc., etc.there's a lot of IRV voting reform stuff going on
around the country (vermont, massachusetts, san francisco). you'll continue to hear about it...
posted 2002.11.06
posted on November 6th 2002
willis
location: jemez mountains
listening to: quickened heartbeats
registered: 2002.11.17
posts: 251
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