It took me a good while to locate these but if you follow this link and scroll down the left side, you will find links to the complete transcripts of the Roberts Confirmation Hearings for 12 Sept, 2005.   If it turns out you need to register, and would rather not, just contact me and I will obtain them for you.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington.asp

The reason I went to this trouble is contained in Joseph Bidens remarks, which are interesting in the history he imparts and the future he telegraphs.

BTW...Did anybody notice the Mexican Troops behind the President in his speech yesterday?  Aren't those sorts of events micro managed in every detail? Wonder what that was about?! LOL

Monday, September 12, 2005 · Last updated 3:32 p.m. PT

Roberts Confirmation Transcripts 4 of 10 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp? category=1154&slug=Roberts%20Transcripts%204

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Text of John Roberts' hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, as transcribed by CQ Transcriptions: Part 4 of 10.

BIDEN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Judge Roberts, welcome.

Mrs. Roberts, welcome to you.

I might note at the outset, I have never heard of or seen a federal judge who was an independent. It's amazing what that life tenure does. So I don't think you have any worry, Judge, about having to cash in your independence. It's never occurred in my memory or in my study.

And, Judge, I want to point out to my friends that it is true judges didn't come before the committee in the past. But it used to be required in the past you needed unanimous consent of the entire Senate to get before the Senate. So, you know, there's some good things and some bad things that have changed. Judge, as you know, there's a genuine intellectual debate going on in our country today over whether the Constitution is going to continue to expand the protections of the right to privacy, continue to empower the federal government to protect the powerless.

And it's a big debate. All you got to do is turn to any Web site: American Enterprise Institute, left, right, center. It's a gigantic debate. Hadn't occurred, as you and I both know, and my colleagues know, in the last 70 years. It has not been this contentious; not just the politics but the debate, the intellectual debate.

For 70 years, there's been a consensus, Judge, on our Supreme Court on these issues of privacy and protecting the powerless. And this consensus has been fully, fully embraced, in my view, by the American people.

But there are those who strongly disagree with the consensus, as is their right. And they seek to unravel the consensus.

And, Judge, you are in the unenviable position, as we talked about in my office, of being right in the middle of this fundamentally important debate.

And quite frankly, Judge, we need to know on which side of that divide you stand, for whoever replaces Justice Rehnquist, as well as Justice O'Connor, will play a pivotal role in this debate and for tens of millions of the American people, this is no academic exercise.

For the position you will take in this debate will affect their lives in very real and personal ways for at least, God willing, the next three decades. And there is nothing they can do about it after this moment.

Judge, I believe in a Constitution -- as our Supreme Court's first great chief who has been mentioned today, Justice Marshall, said in 1819, and I quote, a Constitution intended to endure for ages to come and consequently to be adapted to the various crises of human affairs.

That's the Constitution I believe in. That's the way I think we should look at the Constitution.

At its core, the Constitution envisions ever-increasing protections for human liberty and dignity for all its citizens and a national government empowered -- empowered -- to deal with these unanticipated crises.

GM~ Is it just me, or am I wrong in thinking the Constitution and Bill of Rights pretty well anticipated all of the necessary protections of our liberties, and the Federal Government has been whittling away at them ever since?  Must be, just my imagination runnin away with me...

Judge, herein lies, in my view, the crux or the intellectual debate I referred to at the outset: whether we will have an ever- increasing protection for human dignity and human liberty or whether those protections will be diminished, as suggested by many in their reading of the Constitution that says there are no unenumerated rights -- there is a very narrow reading of the Constitution. In 1925 the Constitution preserved the rights of parents to determine how to educate their kids, striking down a law that required children to attend public school.

In 1965 the Constitution told the state to get out of married couples' bedrooms by striking down a state law prohibiting married couples from using contraceptions.

In 1967 the Constitution defended the right of a black woman to marry a white man.

In 1977 the Constitution stopped a city from making it a crime for a grandmother to live with her grandchildren.

GM~ Never heard of this one.  Details would be appreciated.

And, fortunately, even when the Supreme Court at first took the Constitution away from the promise of hope of our Constitution's ennobling phrases, in the end it has kept the faith.

In 1873, for example, the court said states could forbid women from being lawyers. It took 100 years to undo this terrible mistake, but the court eventually got it right.

GM~ Should have forbidden all lawyering!-)

In 1896 the Supreme Court said separate but equal is unlawful. It took 58 years for the Supreme Court to outlaw racial segregation, throwing the doctrine into the dustbin of history, but it got it right.

In the early 1900s the court rendered the federal government powerless to outlaw child labor, to protect workers. It took until 1937 for the Supreme Court to see the error of its ways, but it finally got it right.

In every step we've had to struggle against those who saw the Constitution as frozen in time, Judge, but time and again we've overcome and the Constitution has remained relevant and dynamic, thanks to the proper interpretation, in my view, of the ennobling phrases purposely placed in what I refer to as our civic bible, the Constitution. And once again, when it should be even more obvious to all Americans we need increased protections for liberty as we look around the world and we see thousands of people persecuted because of their faith, women unable to show their faces in public, children maimed and killed for no other reason than they were born the wrong tribe; and once again, when it should be obvious we need a more energetic national government to deal with the challenges of the new millennium -- terrorism, the spread of weapons of mass destruction, pandemic disease, religious intolerance -- once again our journey of progress is under attack.

GM~ Do we need 'increased protections for liberty'?  I think we need protection from the congress and federal judiciary.  Note too, the mention of pandemic disease, like he's expecting it.

And it's coming from, in my view, the right. There are judges, scholars and opinion leaders who belong to this group of people, who are good, honorable and patriotic Americans. They believe the Constitution provides no protection against government intrusion into highly personal decisions like the Schiavo case, decisions about birth, about marriage, about family, about religion.

There are those who would slash the power of our national government, fragmenting it among the states in a new reading of the 10th and 11th amendment.

GM~ Sign me up!!! Wait a minute, wouldn't that be the original reading?

Incredibly, some even argue, as you well know -- people won't believe this -- but some are arguing today, in this constitutional exile group, who argue that the national government has no power to deal with what's going on in the Gulf at this moment.

GM~ Well they certainly have no right to forcibly evict old women from their homes.  See the Fox News video of an old women tackled by SFPD in New Orleans. http://infowars.com/articles/new_orleans/ gun_grab_police_force_elderly_out_of_homes.htm

The are other, unvideoed reports of doors being kicked in and American civilians being drug out by their hair.

Judge, I don't believe the Constitution -- I don't believe in a constitution where individuals could, for very long, have accomplished what we did had we read it in such a narrow way.

Like the founders, I believe our Constitution is as big and as grand and as great as its people. Our constitutional journey did not stop with women being barred from being lawyers, with 10-year-olds working in coal mines or black kids forced in different schools than white kids just because the Constitution -- in the Constitution, nowhere does it mention sex discrimination, child labor, segregation. It doesn't mention it.

Our constitutional journey did not stop then and it must not stop now, Judge. And we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions in the 21st century.

Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement? There's actual discussion about that.

GM~ It's more than discussion if Joseph Biden is mentioning it. Consider the Digital Angel device, it's very cool technology designed to track you like cattle: http://www.verichipcorp.com/ Naturally it's not sold that blatantly anymore, but if you read between the lines and do a little research, you'll have no difficulty discovering it will be used that way.

BTW, their stock has risen several hundred per cent this year.  Wish I'd bought more. Did you get some Pat?

You will rule on that -- mark my words -- before your tenure is over.

GM~ Confirmed in this remark.  Do you get that indicator?!  Not if, but 'mark my words' you're going to have rule on this.

Can brain scans be used to determine whether a person's inclined toward criminality or violent behavior?

GM~ Another interesting indicator.  I might add, you might think a persons right to privacy is a given, which of course as evidenced by the forcible removals of law abiding citizens in New Orleans we should know is a farce:

You will rule on that.

GM~ A simple declarative statement.  Do you suppose ol' Joe Biden knows stuff you choose to believe fantastic?  'Course he does.

And, Judge, I need to know whether you will be a justice who believes that the constitutional journey must continue to speak to these consequential decisions or that we've gone far enough in protecting against government intrusion into our autonomy into the most personal decisions we make.

Judge, that's why this is a critical moment. There are elected officials in this government, such as Mr. DeLay -- a fine, honorable, patriotic man -- and others who have been unsuccessful at implementing their agenda in the elected branches. So they have now poured their energy -- as the left would, if it were different -- and now poured their energies and resources into trying to change the court's view of the Constitution.

GM~ Ol Joe's right about this being a 'critical moment' in our history.  Just for the wrong reasons.  'Course he's not a regular Joe like you and probably won't be impacted the same as most of us. No internee camps for Joe.

And now they have a once in a lifetime opportunity, the filling of two Supreme Court vacancies, one of which is the chief and the other is for associate justice -- the first time in 75 years.

Judge, I believe with every fiber in my being that their view of the Constitution and where the country should be taken would be disaster for our people.

Like most Americans, I believe the Constitution recognizes a general right to privacy.

GM~ And yet doors are being broken down in New Orleans and old women are being tackled and forcibly removed from their servicable homes.  The National Media isn't showing all what's going on. And Joseph Biden is saying squat. Anybody get the import of this combination of facts.

I believe a woman's right to be nationally and vigorously protected exists.

GM~ Unless you're an old woman sitting quietly in your home and FEMA wants you out.

I believe that the federal government must act as a shield to protect the powerless against the economic interests of this country.

GM~ Since when?  More double speak.  Am I wrong?

And I believe the federal government should stamp out discrimination wherever -- wherever -- it occurs.

And I believe the Constitution inspires and empowers us to achieve these great goals.

GM~ Wasn't the Constitution for, limiting all this interference in private lives to begin with?

Judge, if I look only at what you've said and written -- as used to happen in the past -- I would have to vote no. You dismissed the constitutional protection of privacy as, quote, a so-called right. You derided agencies like the Securities and Exchange Commission that combat corporate misconduct as constitutional anomalies, quote.

GM~ Sounds like this Judge is a scary as Gonzalez. Privacy is 'a so- called right'?

And you dismissed gender discrimination as, quote -- and I quote --merely a perceived problem.

This is your chance, Judge, to explain what you meant by what you have said and what you have written. That's what I said when I was chairman. That's what this is about.

The Constitution provides for one democratic moment, Judge -- one democratic moment -- before a lifetime of judicial independence.

This is that moment.

And when the people of the United States are entitled to know as much as they can about the person we are entrusting with and safeguarding our future, and the future of our children and our grandchildren, Judge, as you know and we talked about, this is that moment and this is what this hearing is about.

I thank you.

SPECTER: Thank you, Senator Biden. ...if you wish to read Senator Kyl's remarks, follow the link above, as it is contained in 4 of 10.

For some, their worst fears have arrived: blatant forced confiscation of legally owned fire arms by Agents if the Government; forced removal of honest Americans from their homes. And best of all, although worse than Real ID, you can be chipped like cattle and have your every move tracked! In fact, in some places, it's already considered the sheik thing to do so you don't have to carry a wallet or purse when you go clubbing.

I can prove every word. Too bad, it is too late to do anything but be alarmed. That is, the few who will be.