"...Health care is not a god given right and those that promote it have no successful model to point to. If you want an idea of what it will be like check out the medical care for the veterans that is totally run by the government. There is a reason the U.S. has one of the best medical care systems in the world. Let's keep it that way..."

Pat, since you're the resident expert on "God-given rights" can you tell us which ones DO provide successful models? (The god-given right to own firearms is already pretty evident so you have to come up with something else...)

You may very well be the last man standing who believes in the viability of the US health care system as it exists today. And really, are you comparing the VA to any sane model of universal health care?

You sir, are disqualified for doping...