Reg
location: back to the wilderness
listening to: static
registered: 1999.11.22
posts: 6470
[view all posts]
[view all posts]
It has nothing to do with healthcare or baseball players. It has to do with people being frightened and angry. It has to do with a general sense that more of the same (in this case voting in another Democrat) gets us nowhere. Something that should be understood about Massachusetts is that our state legislature is mighty arrogant and they have no concern about waving that in our faces. This was a Massachusetts message and for the most part it was to put the state legislators on notice as they have become fairly openly despised. To tell you the truth as Brown gave his victory speech I bet some of the people that voted for him wondered what the hell they had just done as he pretty much sounded a lot like he was reading from the Bush/Cheney playbook.
If Republicans take anything from the Brown victory I hope it is the fact that he ran a clean muckfree campaign and he let the Democrats sling the shit this time. Here in Massachusetts that really backfired for the Democrats because if anybody had bothered to ask it would have been pretty damn easy to discover the last thing voters in this state wanted to deal with was more mudslinging.
Here were the big things:
1. Coakley seemed to think she did not need to go out amongst the people and campaign. Brown was out there nonstop and so were his people and supporters. She seemed to lack any kind of advertising, Brown's signs were everywhere.
2. Coakley lost the debate big which led to pure panic and the arrival of the DNC and even our president. The DNC turned the campaign into a total shitstorm of Rovian proportions which made Coakley look ugly and desperate. She reeked like a loser, Brown looked and acted like he already won.
3. Brown and his campaign stayed on a positive message and he constantly soft peddled the fact he was a Republican. He referred to himself constantly as an independent and intentionally stayed away from making remarks or taking positions that might make him seem Republican. He did a great job with this and I don't know how but even managed to get people to overlook that Mitt Romney was crouching behind him all the time.
4. In general it pissed off a lot of Massachusetts voters that this Senate seat seemed to be taken for granted by the Democrats and when you have a general public that feels they have been constantly taken advantage of by these politicians...well...things were ripe for a voter revolt. If you want a message it was an anti-incumbent message that was being sent.
Obama beat Clinton because she looked ugly and vicious and in this election Brown won because the Democrats made Coakley look ugly and vicious. Obama beat McCain in part because the McCain campaign turned ugly and vicious. I hope this is a message that is sinking in because people don't want to have to sift through this shit anymore.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
Reg
(view)
It has nothing to do with healthcare or baseball players. It has to do with people being frightened and angry. It has to do with a general sense that more of the same (in this case voting in another Democrat) gets us nowhere. Something that should be understood about Massachusetts is that our state legislature is mighty arrogant and they have no concern about waving that in our faces. This was a Massachusetts message and for the most part it was to put the state legislators on notice as they have become fairly openly despised. To tell you the truth as Brown gave his victory speech I bet some of the people that voted for him wondered what the hell they had just done as he pretty much sounded a lot like he was reading from the Bush/Cheney playbook.
If Republicans take anything from the Brown victory I hope it is the fact that he ran a clean muckfree campaign and he let the Democrats sling the shit this time. Here in Massachusetts that really backfired for the Democrats because if anybody had bothered to ask it would have been pretty damn easy to discover the last thing voters in this state wanted to deal with was more mudslinging.
Here were the big things:
1. Coakley seemed to think she did not need to go out amongst the people and campaign. Brown was out there nonstop and so were his people and supporters. She seemed to lack any kind of advertising, Brown's signs were everywhere.
2. Coakley lost the debate big which led to pure panic and the arrival of the DNC and even our president. The DNC turned the campaign into a total shitstorm of Rovian proportions which made Coakley look ugly and desperate. She reeked like a loser, Brown looked and acted like he already won.
3. Brown and his campaign stayed on a positive message and he constantly soft peddled the fact he was a Republican. He referred to himself constantly as an independent and intentionally stayed away from making remarks or taking positions that might make him seem Republican. He did a great job with this and I don't know how but even managed to get people to overlook that Mitt Romney was crouching behind him all the time.
4. In general it pissed off a lot of Massachusetts voters that this Senate seat seemed to be taken for granted by the Democrats and when you have a general public that feels they have been constantly taken advantage of by these politicians...well...things were ripe for a voter revolt. If you want a message it was an anti-incumbent message that was being sent.
Obama beat Clinton because she looked ugly and vicious and in this election Brown won because the Democrats made Coakley look ugly and vicious. Obama beat McCain in part because the McCain campaign turned ugly and vicious. I hope this is a message that is sinking in because people don't want to have to sift through this shit anymore.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
posted 2010.01.20
posted on January 20th 2010
Reg
location: back to the wilderness
listening to: static
registered: 1999.11.22
posts: 6470
[view all posts]
[view all posts]
-
A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – randym on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – cassandra on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – rosskolnikov on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – randym on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – rosskolnikov on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – randym on January 20th, 2010
There is a message... – Reg on January 20th, 2010-
Re: There is a message... – edlorah on January 20th, 2010-
Re: There is a stain... – messybear on January 20th, 2010-
Re: There is a stain... [P.S.] – messybear on January 22nd, 2010
Easy now, Ed... – Reg on January 20th, 2010-
Re: Easy now, Ed... – Baerwald on January 20th, 2010
Re: Easy now, Ed... – edlorah on January 20th, 2010-
Re: Easy now, Ed... – cassandra on January 20th, 2010
I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – Reg on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – edlorah on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – Reg on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – edlorah on January 22nd, 2010
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – MJG on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – edlorah on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – messybear on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – Herring405 on January 22nd, 2010-
Take care of – Andrea on January 29th, 2010
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – messybear on January 29th, 2010-
Re: I'd say you need to think about things a bit, Ed... – Herring405 on January 29th, 2010
Don't be easy now, Ed, you're right... – Peter T. on January 20th, 2010-
Re: Don't be easy now, Ed, you're right... – pkjensen on January 20th, 2010
Re: Don't be easy now, Ed, you're right... – edlorah on January 21st, 2010-
EdLo EdLo you misguided child – randym on January 23rd, 2010-
Re: EdLo EdLo you misguided child – edlorah on January 25th, 2010-
Re: EdLo EdLo you misguided child – mick on January 27th, 2010
Paper Panther babeeeee – Andrea on January 29th, 2010
Let it go Ed – randym on January 20th, 2010-
Re: Let it go Ed – Baerwald on January 21st, 2010-
Re: Let it go Ed – edlorah on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – edlorah on January 20th, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – Eugene on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – Peter T. on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – Eugene on January 21st, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – Baerwald on January 21st, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – edlorah on January 21st, 2010-
Re: Message with Brown Mass – messybear on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – rosskolnikov on January 21st, 2010-
Re: A message beset wit own ass – messybear on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – edlorah on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – cassandra on January 21st, 2010-
Re: is being sent in – messybear on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – cassandra on January 21st, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – rosskolnikov on January 21st, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – heathcliffe on January 21st, 2010
I'd say... – Reg on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say... – edlorah on January 22nd, 2010-
Re: I'd say... – Herring405 on January 22nd, 2010
Re: I'd say... – Marc on January 23rd, 2010
Re: I'd say ... – messybear on January 23rd, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – edlorah on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – mick on January 20th, 2010
Re: message in a bottle – messybear on January 20th, 2010
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – cassandra on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – MJG on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – cassandra on January 20th, 2010-
Re: A message is being sent with Brown's win in Mass – MJG on January 20th, 2010
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
