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The other night on HBO they had a documentary on deaths cause by firearms in the US and the aftermath to families. While the documentary was on (I quit watching after a bit), the ticker was still going up at 4K plus for a period of three months in 2014. My point is this...Pat wants to pull out some political expedient example of a gun death in San Fransisco (while yes, it is horrible)to simply make political yardage. So, while sides focus on bullshit political talking points that favor their side, they ignore the true carnage that is going on. The smoke and mirrors vs the real issue. Let me put it another way...guns end up in the hands of criminals from a very few number of ways - straw purchases and buying them others on the street under a variety of ways. On top of this, it is KNOWN about a relative small number of gun dealers that feed the straw purchase pipeline. So what gets done about it? Nothing. Girlfriends of thugs or other people obtain the credentials to make these purchases - where it can be documented - and nothing gets done because some chicken little claims how the 2nd Amendment will fade if something is tried. It's like this Beghanzi bullshit - four deaths vs 4000 plus in Iraq and by God, the Republicans are in outrage! Just outrage!!So, let's continue to focus on the bullshit, argue the inane and ignore the carnage that occurs each day.
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The other night on HBO they had a documentary on deaths cause by firearms in the US and the aftermath to families. While the documentary was on (I quit watching after a bit), the ticker was still going up at 4K plus for a period of three months in 2014. My point is this...Pat wants to pull out some political expedient example of a gun death in San Fransisco (while yes, it is horrible)to simply make political yardage. So, while sides focus on bullshit political talking points that favor their side, they ignore the true carnage that is going on. The smoke and mirrors vs the real issue. Let me put it another way...guns end up in the hands of criminals from a very few number of ways - straw purchases and buying them others on the street under a variety of ways. On top of this, it is KNOWN about a relative small number of gun dealers that feed the straw purchase pipeline. So what gets done about it? Nothing. Girlfriends of thugs or other people obtain the credentials to make these purchases - where it can be documented - and nothing gets done because some chicken little claims how the 2nd Amendment will fade if something is tried. It's like this Beghanzi bullshit - four deaths vs 4000 plus in Iraq and by God, the Republicans are in outrage! Just outrage!!So, let's continue to focus on the bullshit, argue the inane and ignore the carnage that occurs each day.
posted 2015.07.10
posted on July 10th 2015
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Speaking of guns... – dale on July 2nd, 2015-
Re: Speaking of guns... – Dan on July 2nd, 2015-
Input from EEE? – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015-
I've given up on the gun debate.... – EEE on July 2nd, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – randym on July 2nd, 2015
Not a gun-rights question, EEE... – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015-
Given it some thought... – EEE on July 3rd, 2015-
Thanks EEE! – Peter T. on July 3rd, 2015
Re: Given it some thought... – randym on July 4th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Marc on July 7th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – messybear on July 20th, 2015-
Re: given the gun debate... – messybear on July 26th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Hypocrisy and Intolerance – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015
Dale is right... – Reg on July 12th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – randym on July 10th, 2015
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