> I'll say it one last time however if you didn't get it
> the first time it's doubtful this will help. There's
> another side to the environmenmtal issues which is
> getting very little attention. It finally got some the
> other night and I stated that I was glad for that.

And I'll say it again for you: The reason people don't want to hear the other side is because it's presented, more often than not, either by corporations or those beholden to them. People don't trust corporations, and they don't trust politicians who sell themselves to corporations. For very good reasons.

> I brought Dan Rather and Peter Jennings name into the
> discussion because I feel they are part of the liberal
> media which perpetuates this mentality of presenting a
> liberal bias and questioned whether or not you had a
> problem with that.

Your mention of the "liberal media" exposes you as a knee-jerk right-wing fraud. The liberal media is a myth. I have a problem with mass media because it's a joke, not because of any perceived liberal or conservative bias. This is an environmental issue we're talking about anyway, not a liberal or conservative one. In any case, I really feel that Rather and Jennings possess a lot more credibility than someone like Stossel.

> Can you please tell me what's so dispicable about "the
> jobs" corporations have "farmed out to wonderful places
> like Saipan"? Really, in a country where anybody who
> wants to work can work why are you concerned that
> corporations have sought to minimize their production
> costs by using overseas labor. I'm sure the people in
> Saipan are grateful for the opportunity presented to them
> Is anybody forcing these people to work these jobs?

I'm beginning to wish you'd do a little reading before you go shooting off your mouth, Kevin. As much as I appreciate the opportunity to tee off on absurd statements like these, it makes me worry.

First of all, it's very easy to say that "anybody who wants to work can work." But that leaves out the fact that the median American income, in real dollars, has dropped since Nixon was in office. There are a LOT of people out there who are having quite a bit of difficulty making ends meet. Perhaps you aren't aware of the painful struggles undertaken by groups like ACORN, pursuing a simple living wage for employees across the country. Can anybody who wants to feed their family, feed their family? Again, I urge you to do a little research.

Second, Saipan--if you had bothered to read about it at all--is one of the most notorious human-rights violators in the world. AND it's a United States territory to boot. American corporations have been taking advantage of loopholes in the law to willfully sponsor the systematic abuse of indigent workers for decades, with the full support of our government. And yes, in many cases, someone IS forcing these people to work at their job. Is your name really Kevin Gilmore? You sound an awful lot more like Tom DeLay.

> Yes, I do consider a one sided discussion lacking any
> balance and presented as education for our children (or
> anybody for that matter) to be dogma and deceit. I'm all
> for presenting the facts but not only your facts.

I'm not presenting anyone's facts. I'm repeating well-documented truth to you, because you're apparently too lazy to find it out for yourself. I've given you several excellent, concrete examples of why I find your apparent beliefs so silly and repugnant. Where's your evidence? Where are your facts? What's this "other side" you keep talking about? Try to find me one moral, ethical leg for these corporations to stand on. Give me one ironclad defense for dumping carcinogens in our water and air. Make me believe it's okay for those responsible to avoid reparations, commission bogus reports, and generally escape comeuppance from the government that exists for no other purpose than to serve our general interest.