> Wow, I'm dissapointed and a little stunned. So I didn't
> have a response to the many corporate wrongdoings Jeff
> brought up in our discussion, because I don't believe all > of corporate America should be pigeonholed with those who
> would commit those wrongdoings. I thought I made this
> point clear.

Fair enough, Kevin, but if you'll recall, I also said I don't think corporate America as a whole deserves to be demonized (pigeonholed). But I did list many specific reasons why the corporate system lacks credibility when it comes to matters of public welfare. You could have addressed any of them individually. You chose not to.

> I made my initial post with the idea of getting some
> discussion going on what I thought was a pretty slow
> message board but one with some interesting points of
> view. I'm always learning from others and I'd hoped to
> engage some people in a healthy discussion. We were all
> educated by Jeff, I know I was.

In the overall scheme of things, I know very little. I agree with you on the interesting points of view, and that's why I entered into a dialogue with you. I wasn't being snide when I kept calling for the substance of your argument--I was really hoping there was some. If you could have somehow tried to justify the immense power we've given corporations in the last ten years, our discussion could have been much more interesting. (For me, anyway. Many others are probably bored to tears by all this stuff by now.)

> I don't imagine we'll ever agree on these issues but what
> if, sometime, we could find something from the other
> persons perspective which you could take with you?
> Something which you could use to help you see things as
> they should be seen. Do we want to stifle that?

I don't think this is fair to David. You never offered a perspective beyond "I like what corporations do for me." This is fine in surface conversation, but for the purposes of an active debate, it isn't very useful. I don't think David wants to stifle anything. But I do share his frustration with your tendency to prevaricate in the face of honest questions.

> Your response was quite clear but a little disappointing,
> David. Sorry to offend you. I still think you're one heck
> of a singer/songwriter.

One thing we agree on...