Kent...thank you for this sobering message. I don't know 'bout others but for me self-preservation is as I grow older more and more balanced by the need to accept karma. and non-attachment to outcomes...but I'll sorely miss ragging Brad in the hereafter. lets face it there are worse things than starving to death...e.g. PRH's postings. Hi Paul. I think about death a lot now as a buddhist and beginnings and endings...under  all that buying and selling and running off to the sun (dale) and conniving to keep it all together  is that fear. embrace it all I say...thus spake Mick