"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill

My hometown lost 9 brave soldiers of those 14 killed from Ohio on Monday.  If anything, the congressional election held earlier this week would have produced a landslide for Schmidt (as opposed to the close race it was) if it were to be held next week.  You can talk about your body counts until you're blue in the face.  Meanwhile those people were out there trying to stop the nonsense (radical Islamist stone age bullshit) because nobody else in the world has the balls to. 

Yeah, that's how most of us around here saw them. That's how we'll remember them too.

But to answer your question Peter, I think the 4 Amigos are just kind of tired of talking to the hand these days.