Reg, everywhere on the planet people are 'electing' the wrong people. Blair for example, the bloke in Iran, Berlusconi, Mitterand (or is it Chirac I mean who gives a fuck cos they're French), Bertie fucking Ahern, Ian fucking Paisley, Margaret fucking Thatcher, Adolf fucking Hitler, Joe f'ing Stalin, Emperor fucking Ming, the list goes on.

Well, the first thing I'd point out here is that not all of these people were "elected" and sure you could argue that Bush wasn't either...he was awarded the presidency by the Supreme Court.

You are disappointed cos you thought Americans were cleverer?

Not at all. In fact it seems the US ain't even in the top 10. Shit, we love lists though. They make us feel we're getting something done.

We're all idiots, me more than others because I voted Monster raving loony.

Yeah, but someday...like Dan...I'll be drinking in a pub with you and I can at least get revenge in person.

Our values...there are few values that are in consensus even here on the board among Americans Reg, apart from gloating over the frailties of a bunch of morons in Washington, or Enron.

I don't know if I'd call it gloating...just some of us have noticed and thought it best to at least point it out.

Not that gloating is a value in itself, is it Andrea darling? And it won't even be a luxury when the hit shits the fan...

The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is that the shit will at some point hit the fan.