I'm not sure I agree with all those Joely 'ol boy! well especially the one about honour only being relevant when dealing with honourable people...i think that's why the mess is so baaaadddd! I think you need it in any circumstances...hence my burped inanity about Israel having no moral platform to stand on everytime it goes after terrorists and kills innocents...you dig bro? burp...of fuck excuse me Chris...I think the french decision towards intransigence has really been dishnourable in itself...give their seat on the council to someone who will talk...the UN might as well go and disappear up its own backside now....it's like the league of nations...burp...oh bloody hell what's happening to me??ahhhhh....believe me europe is in disarray now and the fallout will continue for a long time...ministers are resigning and it''ll be every country for themselves soon...there'll be more islamic nutters than you can shake a stick at and all the while the ice caps are melting and Kevin G's going deep sea diving in the kitchen...oh my god we're all doomed...ET come and get me nowwwwwwwwwww!