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David, if Pat is not fired up to change his ways or look again at his belief system having spent time in your esteemable company drinking coffee, I think the hope that is needed is somewhere off in the remote distance...specifically another galaxy. I think we may need to use circular questions as opposed to lineal and offer reflexive as opposed to strategic statements to get some movement in that man-child's brain. We all need a lost cause to chase I expect. Mine is Brad. I will save him from himself.
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