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Mr. Wood: We were furnishing Russia with all the lend-lease equipment that our industry would stand, weren't we?
 
Miss Rand: That is right.
 
Mr. Wood: And continued to do it?
 
Miss Rand: I am not sure it was at all wise. Now, if you want to discuss my military views -- I am not an authority, but I will try.
 
Mr. Wood: What do you interpret, then, the picture as having been made for?
 
Miss Rand: I ask you: what relation could a lie about Russia have with the war effort. I would like to have somebody explain that to me, because I really don't understand it, why a lie would help anybody or why it would keep Russia in or out of the war. How?
 
Mr. Wood: You don't think it would have been of benefit to the American people to have kept them in?
 
Miss Rand: I don't believe the American people should ever be told any lies, publicly or privately. I don't believe that lies are practical. I think the international situation now rather supports me. I don't think it was necessary to deceive the American people about the nature of Russia.
     I could add this: if those who saw it say it was quite all right, and perhaps there are reasons why it was all right to be an ally of Russia, then why weren't the American people told the real reasons and told that Russia is a dictatorship but there are reasons why we should cooperate with them to destroy Hitler and other dictators. All right, there may be some argument to that. Let us hear it. But of what help can it be to the war effort to tell people that we should associate with Russia and that she is not a dictatorship?
 
Mr. Wood: Let me see if I understand your position. I understand, from what you say, that because they were a dictatorship we shouldn't have accepted their help in undertaking to win a war against another dictatorship.
 
Miss Rand: That is not what I said. I was not in a position to make that decision. If I were, I would tell you what I would do. That is not what we are discussing. We are discussing the fact that our country was an ally of Russia, and the question is: what should we tell the American people about it -- the truth or a lie? If we had good reason, if that is what you believe, all right, then why not tell the truth? Say it is a dictatorship, but we want to be associated with it. Say it is worthwhile being associated with the devil, as Churchill said, in order to defeat another evil which is Hitler. There might be some good argument made for that. But why pretend that Russia was not what it was?
 
Mr. Wood: Well --
 
Miss Rand: What do you achieve by that?
 
Mr. Wood: Do you think it would have had as good an effect upon the morale of the American people to preach a doctrine to them that Russia was on the verge of collapse?
 
Miss Rand: I don't believe that the morale of anybody can be built up by a lie. If there was nothing good that we could truthfully say about Russia, then it would have been better not to say anything at all.
 
Mr. Wood: Well --
 
Miss Rand: You don't have to come out and denounce Russia during the war; no. You can keep quiet. There is no moral guilt in not saying something if you can't say it, but there is in saying the opposite of what is true.
 
Mr. Wood: Thank you. That is all.
 
The Chairman: Mr. Vail.
 
Mr. [Richard B.] Vail: No questions.
 
The Chairman: Mr. McDowell.
 
Mr. [John] McDowell: You paint a very dismal picture of Russia. You made a great point about the number of children who were unhappy. Doesn't anybody smile in Russia any more?
 
Miss Rand: Well, if you ask me literally, pretty much no.
 
Mr. McDowell: They don't smile?
 
Miss Rand: Not quite that way; no. If they do, it is privately and accidentally. Certainly, it is not social. They don't smile in approval of their system.
 
Mr. McDowell: Well, all they do is talk about food.
 
Miss Rand: That is right.
 
Mr. McDowell: That is a great change from the Russians I have always known, and I have known a lot of them. Don't they do things at all like Americans. Don't they walk across town to visit their mother-in-law or somebody?
 
Miss Rand: Look, it is very hard to explain. It is almost impossible to convey to a free people what it is like to live in a totalitarian dictatorship. I can tell you a lot of details. I can never completely convince you, because you are free. It is in a way good that you can't even conceive of what it is like. Certainly they have friends and mothers-in-law. They try to live a human life, but you understand it is totally inhuman. Try to imagine what it is like if you are in constant terror from morning till night and at night you are waiting for the doorbell to ring, where you are afraid of anything and everybody, living in a country where human life is nothing, less than nothing, and you know it. You don't know who or when is going to do what to you because you may have friends who spy on you, where there is no law and any rights of any kind.
 
Mr. McDowell: You came here in 1926, I believe you said. Did you escape from Russia?
 
Miss Rand: No.
 
Mr. McDowell: Did you have a passport?
 
Miss Rand: No. Strangely enough, they gave me a passport to come out here as a visitor.
 
Mr. McDowell: As a visitor?
 
Miss Rand: It was at a time when they relaxed their orders a little bit. Quite a few people got out. I had some relatives here and I was permitted to come here for a year. I never went back.
 
Mr. McDowell: I see.
 
The Chairman: Mr. Nixon.
 
Mr. [Richard] Nixon: No questions.
 
The Chairman: All right. The first witness tomorrow morning will be Adolph Menjou.