edlorah
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Well, where do you want to start Pat? One of the things I do most days is initiate 'palliative care
conferences' with patients and their families when an elderly patient has been admitted to the hospital
for the umpteenth time for diagnostic workups or interventions. Perhaps it was a fall at home or a
seizure or cardiac event that triggered the hospitalization.I begin talking with them about options: going home with supportive in-home care- palliative care or
hospice, if appropriate- or continuing to have 'procedures' done that really no longer have any benefit
(and frequently create more distress). Most of the patients I visit are in their eighties and their
'specialists' continue to counsel more tests, more interventions, more hope that their bodies can
regain some diminished capacity if the right 'treatment' is attempted.In some cases the treatment works: in most it buys a short time at best but at great cost to the
patient's quality of life. These specialists are just doing what they are trained to do. They make a hell of a lot of money as well.
There is a powerful incentive built into our culture to offer more treatment. Many patients, especially
the elderly, look to their doctors for advice, and many submit to procedures that are not helpful in the
long run.To answer your question, the option to have 'comfort care' and support earlier and to forego expensive
and fruitless interventions is one that needs to be offered routinely to patients who are over eighty and
who are frequent, 'high utilizers' in the hospital. it would improve the qualiy of life for many and save
countless amounts of money needlessly spent on useless diagnostic tests and interventions.just a start ...
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"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
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Well, where do you want to start Pat? One of the things I do most days is initiate 'palliative care
conferences' with patients and their families when an elderly patient has been admitted to the hospital
for the umpteenth time for diagnostic workups or interventions. Perhaps it was a fall at home or a
seizure or cardiac event that triggered the hospitalization.I begin talking with them about options: going home with supportive in-home care- palliative care or
hospice, if appropriate- or continuing to have 'procedures' done that really no longer have any benefit
(and frequently create more distress). Most of the patients I visit are in their eighties and their
'specialists' continue to counsel more tests, more interventions, more hope that their bodies can
regain some diminished capacity if the right 'treatment' is attempted.In some cases the treatment works: in most it buys a short time at best but at great cost to the
patient's quality of life. These specialists are just doing what they are trained to do. They make a hell of a lot of money as well.
There is a powerful incentive built into our culture to offer more treatment. Many patients, especially
the elderly, look to their doctors for advice, and many submit to procedures that are not helpful in the
long run.To answer your question, the option to have 'comfort care' and support earlier and to forego expensive
and fruitless interventions is one that needs to be offered routinely to patients who are over eighty and
who are frequent, 'high utilizers' in the hospital. it would improve the qualiy of life for many and save
countless amounts of money needlessly spent on useless diagnostic tests and interventions.just a start ...
–--
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
posted 2009.07.22
posted on July 22nd 2009
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Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – PatBrown on July 21st, 2009-
Re: Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – edlorah on July 21st, 2009-
Re: Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – PatBrown on July 21st, 2009-
Re: Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – edlorah on July 22nd, 2009-
Re: Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – PatBrown on July 22nd, 2009-
Re: Since Obama's Health Care Bill is bombing.............. – edlorah on July 22nd, 2009
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