Jus’tween you and me, Jeff. I Can’t imagine how anyone wouldn’t give Meat Loaf his just due. I mean, he was play-acting on the stage, …schlepping his wares and taking it on the shorthairs, only to run across a sappy piano songwriter in desperate need of a set o pipes with a passion worthy of his overtly melodramatic sweeping themes. …It would seem the tides were turning just then, and Meat rose to the occasion. If people didn’t enjoy his take on rock operatics, they would have stopped going..after one time. But they returned over and over again to see the fat guy sing.  Best I can gather, For Crying Out Loud is one of the best and most difficult power ballads ever performed, and if a cat can do that more than once a week and sustain it for a few seasons without dying strung out on the can with his socks in his hand, then he wins..& good for him. Meatloaf earned his spurs. No matter what he’s busying himself with today. But my main point---I think you took it well---was that Todd Rundgren’s guitar work and production on Bat Out of Hell was brilliant. The motorcycle sounds alone, all electric guitar pyrotechnics & 8-fingers-2-thumbs, ..ROCKED!  I’m prity-sure we still have it on vinyl (from when I was thirteen..and buying my records at Peaches Records & Tapes).