Re: Best Analysis of Trump and His Movement
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It's a nice well composed article but he gets some things amazingly and
horribly wrong. For example when he characterizes Obama as an "outsider"
when he was no such thing and even worse ties him in with Sanders and
Trump as such. Sanders and Trump are true outsiders and Obama was as
inside as you could get...hell, even Republicans liked him.
He does, however have a full grasp on how precarious a situation we
are
in in this paragraph...
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More potently, Trump has a worryingly strong argument against Clinton
herself — or “crooked Hillary,” as he now dubs her.
His proposition is a simple one. Remember James Carville’s core
question
in the 1992 election: Change versus more of the same? That sentiment once
elected Clinton’s husband; it could also elect her opponent this fall. If
you like America as it is, vote Clinton. After all, she has been a member
of the American political elite for a quarter-century. Clinton, moreover,
has shown no ability to inspire or rally anyone but her longtime
loyalists. She is lost in the new media and has struggled to put away a
74-year-old socialist who is barely a member of her party. Her own
unfavorables are only 11 points lower than Trump’s (far higher than
Obama’s, John Kerry’s, or Al Gore’s were at this point in the race), and
the more she campaigns, the higher her unfavorables go (including in her
own party). She has a Gore problem. The idea of welcoming her into your
living room for the next four years can seem, at times, positively
masochistic.
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One thing that I feel a lot of the media that openly despises Trump
misses is that the strongest thing that ties his supporters together is
not hate or racism or bigotry...those elements are at play for some...the
big unifier is actually their complete distrust of their government and
the media talking heads that have led them down one blind alley after
another.
Years and years of selling them issues that are not the issues that
actually plague them but were just emotional hot spots like abortion, gay
rights, illegal immigrants, a "War on Terror"...all to essentially steal
their votes while they sell them out...this has finally come back to bite
them on the ass.
They are united in one simple idea...
"You lied to us!"
And you know what...they are right and they know it and yes, it makes
them angry. So, while some people probably actually believe the bullshit
Trump spews...others I think just want to unleash that asshole on all the
politicians in DC that they feel not only do not hear them but don't give
a damn about them in any way. Trump comes across to them as a guy that
will be as belligerent and nasty to those politicians as they would be if
they actually had a chance to confront them.
Right now the pillars of our democracy are shaking and it is actually
THE
PEOPLE shaking them. Republican voters totally turned on their party and
seem to have realized that the "values" Republicans were selling had
nothing to do with them. No group has been more lied to, more deceived,
buried under more bullshit than middle and lower class Republicans. The
payback is Donald Trump a guy with no values except money and self
interest which hilariously are the actual items that the Republicans in
DC were concerned with while they spent so many years bullshitting their
voters.
The part that is tragic is while I like the idea that these voters
have
sent such a strong message to Republican politicians in DC as soon as
Trump eliminated his competition he made known his economic ideas and
they basically added up to his solution to the problems of the middle
class and lower classes was to wipe them out financially...by essentially
"bankrupting" America and then allowing the rich (including him) to swoop
in and rapidly gain access to any wealth they did not already possess.
This basically makes everybody that has supported Trump look like
they
have been horribly duped yet again. He is not on your side...he is only
on his side and it is obvious to him that is the only side there is.
I really did not fear the guy until he made his economic ideas known.
Until that point I just found him to be a clown but I now understand he
is an extremely dangerous clown.
The major issue I have though is that the Democrats insist on putting
Hillary up there with him...the one candidate that could actually lose to
him. She is the only person that could stand on a stage and make him look
good because she has "FULL OF SHIT" written all over her...and Trump will
point that out over and over again.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
Reg
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It's a nice well composed article but he gets some things amazingly and
horribly wrong. For example when he characterizes Obama as an "outsider"
when he was no such thing and even worse ties him in with Sanders and
Trump as such. Sanders and Trump are true outsiders and Obama was as
inside as you could get...hell, even Republicans liked him.
He does, however have a full grasp on how precarious a situation we
are
in in this paragraph...
--------------
More potently, Trump has a worryingly strong argument against Clinton
herself — or “crooked Hillary,” as he now dubs her.
His proposition is a simple one. Remember James Carville’s core
question
in the 1992 election: Change versus more of the same? That sentiment once
elected Clinton’s husband; it could also elect her opponent this fall. If
you like America as it is, vote Clinton. After all, she has been a member
of the American political elite for a quarter-century. Clinton, moreover,
has shown no ability to inspire or rally anyone but her longtime
loyalists. She is lost in the new media and has struggled to put away a
74-year-old socialist who is barely a member of her party. Her own
unfavorables are only 11 points lower than Trump’s (far higher than
Obama’s, John Kerry’s, or Al Gore’s were at this point in the race), and
the more she campaigns, the higher her unfavorables go (including in her
own party). She has a Gore problem. The idea of welcoming her into your
living room for the next four years can seem, at times, positively
masochistic.
--------------
One thing that I feel a lot of the media that openly despises Trump
misses is that the strongest thing that ties his supporters together is
not hate or racism or bigotry...those elements are at play for some...the
big unifier is actually their complete distrust of their government and
the media talking heads that have led them down one blind alley after
another.
Years and years of selling them issues that are not the issues that
actually plague them but were just emotional hot spots like abortion, gay
rights, illegal immigrants, a "War on Terror"...all to essentially steal
their votes while they sell them out...this has finally come back to bite
them on the ass.
They are united in one simple idea...
"You lied to us!"
And you know what...they are right and they know it and yes, it makes
them angry. So, while some people probably actually believe the bullshit
Trump spews...others I think just want to unleash that asshole on all the
politicians in DC that they feel not only do not hear them but don't give
a damn about them in any way. Trump comes across to them as a guy that
will be as belligerent and nasty to those politicians as they would be if
they actually had a chance to confront them.
Right now the pillars of our democracy are shaking and it is actually
THE
PEOPLE shaking them. Republican voters totally turned on their party and
seem to have realized that the "values" Republicans were selling had
nothing to do with them. No group has been more lied to, more deceived,
buried under more bullshit than middle and lower class Republicans. The
payback is Donald Trump a guy with no values except money and self
interest which hilariously are the actual items that the Republicans in
DC were concerned with while they spent so many years bullshitting their
voters.
The part that is tragic is while I like the idea that these voters
have
sent such a strong message to Republican politicians in DC as soon as
Trump eliminated his competition he made known his economic ideas and
they basically added up to his solution to the problems of the middle
class and lower classes was to wipe them out financially...by essentially
"bankrupting" America and then allowing the rich (including him) to swoop
in and rapidly gain access to any wealth they did not already possess.
This basically makes everybody that has supported Trump look like
they
have been horribly duped yet again. He is not on your side...he is only
on his side and it is obvious to him that is the only side there is.
I really did not fear the guy until he made his economic ideas known.
Until that point I just found him to be a clown but I now understand he
is an extremely dangerous clown.
The major issue I have though is that the Democrats insist on putting
Hillary up there with him...the one candidate that could actually lose to
him. She is the only person that could stand on a stage and make him look
good because she has "FULL OF SHIT" written all over her...and Trump will
point that out over and over again.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
