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Just read an interesting article about small community driven sites from
the 90s and how FB has swallowed them all up. (Peter - FB is an
abbreviation for Facebook - the largest US based social network)...
-------------------------------------------King snakes and duck eggs: How social media giants are impacting indie
website ownersOn a hot and humid morning last week, I drove through flat farmland way
east of the more familiar Central Texas hill country and eventually found
my way onto the working ranch of an old-school internet business pioneer.
The purpose of the visit was to try and understand a serious dilemma he
and thousands of other website owners are now facing. The site owner is
Jeff Barringer, who started the forerunner of Kingsnake.com more than 20
years ago to serve people interested in various reptiles and assorted
exotic animals.Back in the pre-internet late 80s and early 90s, there were communities
of people with special interests, just like there are now. Parents of
kids with rare disease, admirers of medieval plumbing—you name it. Snake
and reptile collectors were one such assortment. But like other
specialized cadres, they were geographically spread out, especially in
the U.S. desert southwest, where reptile collecting was booming.
Barringer was among the first to bring them together online.“At the peak I made as much as I used to make setting up computer
networks in the 90s. So this isn’t something that made me rich,” he told
me. “Just a living.”In a shed off to the side of the sprawling lot sit three millennium
yellow Corvettes with various, instantly visible custom modifications.
One sports a flat air-foiled stabilizer on its tail big enough for a
Cessna. A fourth matching yellow ‘vette is said to be in the shop. A
giant four-wheel drive pickup truck on a monstrous lift-kit stands tall
in the gravel driveway, the obvious workhorse on this mini-ranch located
about 50 miles northeast of Austin.“If certain trends continue, it could all fade into the sunset,” he
continued. “Because of social media, like Facebook.” What followed was an interesting lesson in how the Internet works and how
it’s changing—arguably for the worse—for some people. Join us below and
we’ll try and explain those virtual mechanics. All I did,” Barringer explained at the start, "is digitize an existing
reptile hobbyist network. It was already there in the real world, I just
made a website as sort of an experiment and it got big, like instantly—
not through any foresight on my part—but thinking back it almost seems
like it exploded overnight. It was lucky timing, I started it in 1994.”Within a few years, he had turned the experiment into a business, at one
time employing 12 paid staff and paying dozens of third-party contractors
over the years. Just a single side business turned into a revenue source:
Barringer had hundreds of small vendors wanting to sign up for classified
and display advertising accounts, for everything from books about raising
prey mice efficiently to exotic feed for exotic animals. His readers
included some of the most famous wildlife naturalists in the world. The
late Steve Irwin, aka the Crocodile Hunter, was one such icon that kept
in touch, as did Mark O'Shea and others, many of whom participated in
guest chats and other site events. And in a marketing guru’s dream, many
readers regularly came to Kingsnake.com just to peruse the ads. “People came to the site for many other reasons. For example, there was a
lot of interest in regs. There are a lot of laws about owning reptiles,
what’s legal in one state might not be legal in another. Catch the wrong
turtle in the wrong state, and you could be looking at a huge fine.” Now we’re strolling through the muddy center of the petite ranch
surrounding a long one-story house, and the land is swarming with
animals. It’s been raining all month. On one side llamas sit resting in
thick, cropped grass, their legs tucked delicately below, while another
one stands off, alone, watching our every move with those enormous, eerie
black eyes that all large herbivores seem to own. Flocks of noisy geese,
turkeys, and unusual-looking ducks colored like penguins ramble around at
will, clucking their approval and disapproval at one another. It’s Texas,
so there have to be a few goats and several magnificent horses patrolling
the grounds. All the animals appear well-fed, well-groomed, and happy as
clams.King Snake
A highly prized scarlet king snake showing the distinctive coloration
that often gets confused with the venomous coral snake.
Barringer had hit on a mini gold mine, with the emphasis on mini. For
more than a decade, there were no giant corporate competitors to
Kingsnake.com. The same holds true for thousands of other boutique online
communities that sprung up organically with the Internet boom of the mid
90s. The key indie niche was size: These communities might be global in
reach, but they are so small in absolute numbers that they never
attracted big biz with an insatiable thirst for growing earnings year
over year. Until now.“Actually, until more like 2007 to 2008. That’s when Kingsnake.com peaked
and I knew we had peaked. MySpace pointed the way, but Facebook started
really getting big and soon after that, small communities began to grow
out of that platform in a huge way. Facebook and sites like it are
shifting the ... Internet foci, I guess you would call it, from those
smaller site owners and writers and developers, like me, like we used to
be, to FB groups on Facebook pages.”It’s a subtle point Barringer is making here, but one that has quietly
snuck up on lots of small online businesses. For the non-Internet expert
trying to understand it all, he compares it to the demise of small town
America. “Think of Walmart, what can happen to a town when a big Walmart
moves in? It can kill off main street, all the store owners, shoe makers,
bakers, hardware stores, whatever, those functions all get relocated to
the Walmart. Where the majority of employees don’t get paid much.
Communities like mine provide a living wage to lots of people. “Not only has Facebook drawn away community members and the business that
goes with them for so many smaller sites, the social media titan feeds
targeted advertisements aimed at that specialized audience and pockets
the revenue. Veteran owners of indie sites serving tight-knit communities
will point out, with some justification, that they cultivated and drove
this premium traffic from their small site to their own Facebook pages in
the first place. So, why shouldn’t the social media giant share any
revenues generated by that traffic, especially since those same big media
platforms are already hurting small site owners with the rise of groups
and hobby pages?“You know, it’s one thing to deal with competitors who are trying to take
your business. It’s another thing when a giant like Facebook doesn’t even
set out to grab any of your business, they just sorta roll over it
without really meaning to. How do you compete against that?”Walking through the ranch house, it’s pretty obvious this is a guy who
likes to build things, especially gadgets. There are tools everywhere,
big and small, on racks and in piles. There are carefully crafted model
warplanes hanging down all over the ceiling in the home office, some with
sophisticated ducted-fan jet engines and radio controlled flying
surfaces, others assembled and hung purely as showpieces. I asked him if
he’s tried competing with the big guys, and he assured me he’s tried
everything he can think of for the past five years now—and nothing has
worked.“Maybe someone smarter than me can figure out how to recapture that
traffic,” he admits near the end of our visit.Barringer shrugs his shoulders and says there’s nothing illegal or
unethical going on, but it’s hurting his revenue just the same, and
probably doing the same thing to other indie site operators for the same
reason: Falling site traffic due to group and hobby pages developed on
social media networks, mostly Facebook. And there’s no telling how many
people this might eventually affect. We’re talking about a vast, diverse
array of boutique communities populating every indie niche, plus that
portion of the technology feeding chain they collectively support.Many of these sites generate a living for the owner, and a good number
directly employ additional staff. Indirectly, each site needs layouts and
templates, hosting services, special coded scripts written and
implemented, maintenance, plus authentication and other special server
services just to name a few basic items. If they get big enough, they
will undoubtedly need legal work done from time to time, and if business
is being conducted right on the site with credit cards or PayPal, they
need security. Those are some of the ripples spreading away from the
unwanted social media splash, potentially taking thousands of jobs with
them.As for Barringer, he’s already started a whole new, animal related
business. “I’m going to produce duck eggs,” he said proudly, walking to
the bird-proof gate to let me out. “Maybe some other stuff, too, all
organic and free range. And of course I’m already starting to set up a
site for it. It’s called Turtle Hill Farms.”As I stopped briefly at the gate to thank him on my way out, he handed me
some fresh duck eggs to take home and shook his head in final, obvious
regret. “I hope you tell people, it’s not even the loss of money that
makes me the saddest. It’s the loss in the community. We have a good
niche serving a great community of adventurous, really unique characters.
I’ve become close friends with lots of them. And a big hunk of it is
being absorbed, mindlessly, by social media giants that don’t even really
care one way or the other about it, or about us.”from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/28/1563137/-King-snakes-and-
duck-eggs-How-social-media-giants-are-impacting-indie-website-owners
–--
the bullet didn′t even know you dodged it
the bullet didn′t even know you dodged it
Dan
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Just read an interesting article about small community driven sites from
the 90s and how FB has swallowed them all up. (Peter - FB is an
abbreviation for Facebook - the largest US based social network)...
-------------------------------------------King snakes and duck eggs: How social media giants are impacting indie
website ownersOn a hot and humid morning last week, I drove through flat farmland way
east of the more familiar Central Texas hill country and eventually found
my way onto the working ranch of an old-school internet business pioneer.
The purpose of the visit was to try and understand a serious dilemma he
and thousands of other website owners are now facing. The site owner is
Jeff Barringer, who started the forerunner of Kingsnake.com more than 20
years ago to serve people interested in various reptiles and assorted
exotic animals.Back in the pre-internet late 80s and early 90s, there were communities
of people with special interests, just like there are now. Parents of
kids with rare disease, admirers of medieval plumbing—you name it. Snake
and reptile collectors were one such assortment. But like other
specialized cadres, they were geographically spread out, especially in
the U.S. desert southwest, where reptile collecting was booming.
Barringer was among the first to bring them together online.“At the peak I made as much as I used to make setting up computer
networks in the 90s. So this isn’t something that made me rich,” he told
me. “Just a living.”In a shed off to the side of the sprawling lot sit three millennium
yellow Corvettes with various, instantly visible custom modifications.
One sports a flat air-foiled stabilizer on its tail big enough for a
Cessna. A fourth matching yellow ‘vette is said to be in the shop. A
giant four-wheel drive pickup truck on a monstrous lift-kit stands tall
in the gravel driveway, the obvious workhorse on this mini-ranch located
about 50 miles northeast of Austin.“If certain trends continue, it could all fade into the sunset,” he
continued. “Because of social media, like Facebook.” What followed was an interesting lesson in how the Internet works and how
it’s changing—arguably for the worse—for some people. Join us below and
we’ll try and explain those virtual mechanics. All I did,” Barringer explained at the start, "is digitize an existing
reptile hobbyist network. It was already there in the real world, I just
made a website as sort of an experiment and it got big, like instantly—
not through any foresight on my part—but thinking back it almost seems
like it exploded overnight. It was lucky timing, I started it in 1994.”Within a few years, he had turned the experiment into a business, at one
time employing 12 paid staff and paying dozens of third-party contractors
over the years. Just a single side business turned into a revenue source:
Barringer had hundreds of small vendors wanting to sign up for classified
and display advertising accounts, for everything from books about raising
prey mice efficiently to exotic feed for exotic animals. His readers
included some of the most famous wildlife naturalists in the world. The
late Steve Irwin, aka the Crocodile Hunter, was one such icon that kept
in touch, as did Mark O'Shea and others, many of whom participated in
guest chats and other site events. And in a marketing guru’s dream, many
readers regularly came to Kingsnake.com just to peruse the ads. “People came to the site for many other reasons. For example, there was a
lot of interest in regs. There are a lot of laws about owning reptiles,
what’s legal in one state might not be legal in another. Catch the wrong
turtle in the wrong state, and you could be looking at a huge fine.” Now we’re strolling through the muddy center of the petite ranch
surrounding a long one-story house, and the land is swarming with
animals. It’s been raining all month. On one side llamas sit resting in
thick, cropped grass, their legs tucked delicately below, while another
one stands off, alone, watching our every move with those enormous, eerie
black eyes that all large herbivores seem to own. Flocks of noisy geese,
turkeys, and unusual-looking ducks colored like penguins ramble around at
will, clucking their approval and disapproval at one another. It’s Texas,
so there have to be a few goats and several magnificent horses patrolling
the grounds. All the animals appear well-fed, well-groomed, and happy as
clams.King Snake
A highly prized scarlet king snake showing the distinctive coloration
that often gets confused with the venomous coral snake.
Barringer had hit on a mini gold mine, with the emphasis on mini. For
more than a decade, there were no giant corporate competitors to
Kingsnake.com. The same holds true for thousands of other boutique online
communities that sprung up organically with the Internet boom of the mid
90s. The key indie niche was size: These communities might be global in
reach, but they are so small in absolute numbers that they never
attracted big biz with an insatiable thirst for growing earnings year
over year. Until now.“Actually, until more like 2007 to 2008. That’s when Kingsnake.com peaked
and I knew we had peaked. MySpace pointed the way, but Facebook started
really getting big and soon after that, small communities began to grow
out of that platform in a huge way. Facebook and sites like it are
shifting the ... Internet foci, I guess you would call it, from those
smaller site owners and writers and developers, like me, like we used to
be, to FB groups on Facebook pages.”It’s a subtle point Barringer is making here, but one that has quietly
snuck up on lots of small online businesses. For the non-Internet expert
trying to understand it all, he compares it to the demise of small town
America. “Think of Walmart, what can happen to a town when a big Walmart
moves in? It can kill off main street, all the store owners, shoe makers,
bakers, hardware stores, whatever, those functions all get relocated to
the Walmart. Where the majority of employees don’t get paid much.
Communities like mine provide a living wage to lots of people. “Not only has Facebook drawn away community members and the business that
goes with them for so many smaller sites, the social media titan feeds
targeted advertisements aimed at that specialized audience and pockets
the revenue. Veteran owners of indie sites serving tight-knit communities
will point out, with some justification, that they cultivated and drove
this premium traffic from their small site to their own Facebook pages in
the first place. So, why shouldn’t the social media giant share any
revenues generated by that traffic, especially since those same big media
platforms are already hurting small site owners with the rise of groups
and hobby pages?“You know, it’s one thing to deal with competitors who are trying to take
your business. It’s another thing when a giant like Facebook doesn’t even
set out to grab any of your business, they just sorta roll over it
without really meaning to. How do you compete against that?”Walking through the ranch house, it’s pretty obvious this is a guy who
likes to build things, especially gadgets. There are tools everywhere,
big and small, on racks and in piles. There are carefully crafted model
warplanes hanging down all over the ceiling in the home office, some with
sophisticated ducted-fan jet engines and radio controlled flying
surfaces, others assembled and hung purely as showpieces. I asked him if
he’s tried competing with the big guys, and he assured me he’s tried
everything he can think of for the past five years now—and nothing has
worked.“Maybe someone smarter than me can figure out how to recapture that
traffic,” he admits near the end of our visit.Barringer shrugs his shoulders and says there’s nothing illegal or
unethical going on, but it’s hurting his revenue just the same, and
probably doing the same thing to other indie site operators for the same
reason: Falling site traffic due to group and hobby pages developed on
social media networks, mostly Facebook. And there’s no telling how many
people this might eventually affect. We’re talking about a vast, diverse
array of boutique communities populating every indie niche, plus that
portion of the technology feeding chain they collectively support.Many of these sites generate a living for the owner, and a good number
directly employ additional staff. Indirectly, each site needs layouts and
templates, hosting services, special coded scripts written and
implemented, maintenance, plus authentication and other special server
services just to name a few basic items. If they get big enough, they
will undoubtedly need legal work done from time to time, and if business
is being conducted right on the site with credit cards or PayPal, they
need security. Those are some of the ripples spreading away from the
unwanted social media splash, potentially taking thousands of jobs with
them.As for Barringer, he’s already started a whole new, animal related
business. “I’m going to produce duck eggs,” he said proudly, walking to
the bird-proof gate to let me out. “Maybe some other stuff, too, all
organic and free range. And of course I’m already starting to set up a
site for it. It’s called Turtle Hill Farms.”As I stopped briefly at the gate to thank him on my way out, he handed me
some fresh duck eggs to take home and shook his head in final, obvious
regret. “I hope you tell people, it’s not even the loss of money that
makes me the saddest. It’s the loss in the community. We have a good
niche serving a great community of adventurous, really unique characters.
I’ve become close friends with lots of them. And a big hunk of it is
being absorbed, mindlessly, by social media giants that don’t even really
care one way or the other about it, or about us.”from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/28/1563137/-King-snakes-and-
duck-eggs-How-social-media-giants-are-impacting-indie-website-owners
–--
the bullet didn′t even know you dodged it
the bullet didn′t even know you dodged it
