Reg, I am gong to say this first and foremost. You are by far the the most thoughtful person on dbinfosource.com and I would hands down want to take you out for a night of beers on me. Hopefully if DB is in the house!

All that being said, I want you to go back and seriously evaluate what you wrote. Do you really believe all that? I mean I guess you do because you seem so passionate.

At this moment we are looking at a government shutdown (Shumer Shutdown) over stupid shit.

Why? Grandstanding over DACA? Why? Don't Americans come first? I mean taxpayers?

And ok Trump, or drumph as he is called in leftist circles, you hate him I get that

And I won't even go how bad your lord and savior Obama was.

What I know is that in middle America (where I live) and that got him elected since Hillary couldn't bother to rally (she had to nap....besides her press said it was in the bag...remember?) and Trump did it 5 times a day. And they were giant rally's in middle America

Sorry your girl lost.

The thing is we are fed up. Now we have a Oakland, CA mayor telling us that she will prosecute any of her law enforcement officers if they help ICE uphold federal law? Meaning unlawful citizens?

Is this what the left wants to stake their claim on? Unlawful (often neirdowells) people....over the legal people and American Citizens (the taxpayers and subsidizers like me).

If you didn't realize it when it happened (drumphf getting elected against all odds)

Know this. You my friend are extremely out of touch with middle America, much like your celebrity idols that spout the same shit as everyone on this board. And it is why drumph got elected. Give me one reason why Hillary was qualified?

You more than anyone though formulates a more coherent answer than anyone else here.

And I respect that