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Agree with everything Reg - as usual - I just got annoyed that she had endure some much idiocy due to a 10 sec comment. When i watched the video it had been up around a day. At that point 1/3 of the comments were about the freaking gun sign comment. She/they might have removed some of them but the following exchange is still there and is typical (maybe a little less name-calling) - I'm guessing this is still up because she explains her PoV to somewhat deaf ears : "

Absolutely love your videos and have watched for a while. One minor correction.......at gun shows, yes you can buy guns from private dealers but you MUST still PASS a federal background check at the point of sale in order to purchase the weapon just as one must also do at a gun store. Common misconception by many in the US that no background check is required at a gun show, but they are.
 

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I didn't mean to say that gun shows never require a background check. If you buy from a licensed dealer at a gun show, you'll have to go through a background check. But if you buy from a private seller, you don't. That's what I was referring to.
 
 @Feli from Germany  I'm actually in support of private party sales but can confirm Feli is correct. FFL holders (gun shops that go to a show to liquidate extra stock for instance) have you fill out a 4473 background check form and call it into NICS or submit electronically and then get a proceed order to complete the sale. But, let's say some guy named Bob inherited a bunch of guns from his uncle and wants to sell them. He could do so private party to private party without a background check in most states (not all states though). Many people who sell guns informally (to upgrade to a nicer model, sell to get some cash/make a profit) do ask to see a concealed carry permit as proof that the person has passed a background check but it it is not legally mandated to do so. Kudos to Feli on this too for being aware of the details. From other videos I know that she's got a different opinion than I do on some of these topics but good on her for having those details straight when many do not understand it.
 
 
 @Feli from Germany  Please do a public correction of what you meant, then. Please don't feed the propaganda machine. You being German, I'm sure you know how detrimental it can be to do that.
You are wrong. In some states you can buy a gun in a private party transaction without an FFL background check. Sometimes they will be in the parking lot of a gun show and sell you the gun. Totally legal in some states, but not in my home state of California.
 
 @Edward Nonymous  It was a side sentence and I didn't get into detail about all the regulations of a gun show and what I said wasn't wrong. The gun show loophole is a common problem. I didn't spread any "propaganda".
 
 @Feli from Germany  No, of course not. Just like that guy with the odd moustache didn't do his thing all at once.
 
 @Edward Nonymous  This is a private YouTube channel and I mentioned this because most of my German viewers have no clue what a gun show is. It's not the point of the video. Also, please look up what propaganda is. This certainly isn't it. Comparing me to Hitler is also completely out of place and inappropriate and if you do that again I'm gonna block you from my channel.
 
 @Feli from Germany  "But if you buy from a private seller, you don't." That is not exclusive to gun shows though. That applies to any private party/individual. You're misleading people to think this is a gun show problem instead of just something that can be done anywhere.
 
 @Cardinal Thunder  Yes that's true. I don't know if I'm misleading people though. The fact that this can happen in any private sale doesn't make it any less dangerous. If anything, I'm understating the problem. But since I made the comment because of the fun show sign, I didn't find it necessary to go into detail about American gun laws in general beyond the remark about gun shows.
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Meagan Melton
1 day ago
 @Edward Nonymous  are you serious my dude? jfc
Edward Nonymous
1 day ago (edited)
 @Feli from Germany    They STILL have no idea what a gun show is.  You explained nothing, you just gave a snippet of misinformation to people who know no better.  Serious challenge, go to a gun show, approach a vendor, and try to buy a gun without going through a background check or giving ID.  Let me know how that goes for you, but you'll have to email me.  If you put it in a video, I won't see it.

Block me from your channel after I already told you I'm un-subscribing?  Way to flex on me.  Suit yourself.  Know who else silenced people who had opposing views to theirs?  Just saying.  

I also went out of my way to not name-drop the little guy with the little moustache.
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Bill Cole
1 day ago (edited)
 @Edward Nonymous  Your alluding a similarity to Hitler is asinine.  Also, there was no intent to deceive or mislead.  WTF is wrong with you?
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Edward Nonymous
1 day ago
Again with the name-dropping.
Jim Healy
1 day ago
 @Grace Dagostino  Truth!!
Kelly
1 day ago
Glad you commented this. You still need a background check, saying you don't is spreading a huge misconception.
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Grace Dagostino
1 day ago
 @Edward Nonymous  Dude what is the matter with you? She is correct, because some states have tables at gun shows with private party sales, that don’t require a background check. That is why they call it “the gun show loop hole” now you don’t have to be at a gun show to conduct a private party sale. In my beautiful home state of California all private party sales must go through an FFL background check. The buyer and seller meet at an agreed to gun store. In several other states you can sell your gun to someone anywhere.
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Grace Dagostino
1 day ago
 @Kelly  It is not a huge misconception. Some states allow private party tables at gun shows that don’t require an FFL background check. Hence the “gun show loop hole” Now this type of transfer can happen anywhere. Even in a shit house, or if you want more proper English an Out House.
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Kristi Wyckoff
1 day ago
I live in Tennessee and see those signs. I’ve never owned a gun. Never shot a gun other than a BB gun in a camp setting. Never been to a gun show. I am told by natives (I’m originally from the Chicago area) that lots of people here have guns. I’m oblivious. But I do work in a school, so I worry more about it and the children being in harms way than I’d like to.
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Feli from Germany
16 hours ago
@Kelly That's factually wrong. When buying from a private seller, not a licensed dealer, they're not required to run a background check in most states, including Tennessee. Only 14 states require private seller to run one. This applies to sales outside of gun shows as well but also happens at gun shows.
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Dani Bristol
16 hours ago
Having now read the whole thread of responses up until now to this comment I have to say: This is a video about a music festival, full stop. Never would I have expected a remark about a non-musical fascist turn up in the thread. Americans never disappoint to deliver and feed the best clichés. Please, Americans, solve your gun problems (the whole world will thank you for that as our news wouldn't be flooded with horrid images of mass shootings any more and btw the victims of these don't care whether the background of the shooter was or was not checked, they are dead, shot by an imbecile with whatever background) and then let us return to being nice to each other in the comment section while watching a video of - still - a music festival, all right? Manners, people, manners! Thank you.
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Edward Nonymous
14 hours ago
 @Dani Bristol     When it comes to the little comment skirmish, may I ask what, in your assertion, started it?  I think it was a snide little uninformed remark and could easily have been completely avoided by editing a few small seconds of footage.
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Ron
13 hours ago
 @Edward Nonymous  Except it wasn't uninformed, Edward.
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Edward Nonymous
13 hours ago
 @Ron    I'm sorry you think that way.
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