Wow...that was hard hitting...I think that it's great that you can state your case so well...but we'd be cocooning ourselves and avoiding having to evolve through dealing with our inner demons and conlfict...you still with me Gruno...I'm not saying we need KDB but we need extremes in order to find the middle path...I obviously missed stuff whilst in the Eden project and lounging about in Cornwall...? and by teh way lizard you've now blown your lizard fraternising cover prepare to meet Sting (not the 'smug fuck' version... I mean my trusty blade) reg let's move in