Reg,  you capitulating fool...see above post re: challenge.  R U up 4 it??  It will be a FORMAL competition, albeit referreed by ME..Maybe I'll ask Robert Thaggard to alternate referree (he lives near me, and I trust him EMPLICITLY).   Do NOT conclude this issue, UNTIL you read the FUNNY MAN challenge.  Shit..with all these capitals, I feel like KDB P nP etc..

Gene

P.S. We can video/audio the whole debacle, and have Dan a/o Pat with their cyber wizardry make it available for the entire DBis community to view at their leisure.