"Embattled Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned yesterday of the existence of gruesome videotapes of American soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners. Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., .... later cautioned that the videotapes may depict rape and murder."   Seattle PI, 5/8/04

Pat & Kevin G:

I had to respond to some of your comments on the thread below:

Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves for your weak, pathetic  minimizing of the situation in Iraq. Both of you have stated in so many words that "it's no big deal" compared to atrocities perpetrated on Americans.

I have news for you though I doubt you've ears to hear. It's a big fucking deal. How many new atrocities against Americans, here and abroad, will result from what's been revealed so far and from what's about to be revealed? Whether you believe it or not the whole world is watching this story unfold and America's credibility unravel.

"Rape and murder"? I can hardly wait to hear your feeble rationale for that one.

You both call yourselves Christians but you're not like any Christians I know; or would want to know. The Christians I know are sickened by the sight of any human being beaten and humiliated.