Statement By Bill Bennett, Sep. 30, 2005
From the Desk of William J. Bennett September 30, 2005
"On Wednesday, a caller to my radio show proposed the idea that one good argument for the pro-life position would be that if we didn't have abortions, Social Security would be solvent. I stated my doubts about such a thesis, as well as my opposition to such a form of argument (the audio of the call is available at my Website: bennettmornings.com).
"I then stated that such extrapolations of this argument can cut both ways, and cited the current bestseller, Freakonomics, which discusses the authors' thesis that abortion reduces crime.
"Then, putting my philosophy professor's hat on, I went on to reveal the limitations of such arguments by showing the absurdity in another such argument, along the same lines. I entertained what law school professors call 'the Socratic method' and what I would hope good social science professors still use in their seminars. In so doing, I suggested a hypothetical analogy while at the same time saying the proposition I was using about blacks and abortion was 'impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible,' just to ensure those who would have any doubt about what they were hearing, or for those who tuned in to the middle of the conversation.
"The issues of crime and race have been on many people's minds, and tongues, for the past month or so--in light of the situation in New Orleans; and the issues of race, crime, and abortion are well aired and ventilated in articles, the academy, the think tank community, and public policy. Indeed the whole issue of crime and race is not new in social science, nor popular literature. One of the authors of Freakonomics, himself, had an extended exchange on the discussion of these issues on the Internet some years back--which was also much debated in the think tank community in Washington.
"A thought experiment about public policy, on national radio, should not have received the condemnations it has. Anyone paying attention to this debate should be offended by those who have selectively quoted me, distorted my meaning, and taken out of context the dialogue I engaged in this week. Such distortions from 'leaders' of organizations and parties is a disgrace not only to the organizations and institutions they serve, but to the First Amendment.
"In sum, let me reiterate what I had hoped my long career had already established: that I renounce all forms of bigotry--and that my record in trying to provide opportunities for, as well as save the lives of, minorities in this country stands up just fine."
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Statement By Bill Bennett, Sep. 30, 2005
From the Desk of William J. Bennett September 30, 2005
"On Wednesday, a caller to my radio show proposed the idea that one good argument for the pro-life position would be that if we didn't have abortions, Social Security would be solvent. I stated my doubts about such a thesis, as well as my opposition to such a form of argument (the audio of the call is available at my Website: bennettmornings.com).
"I then stated that such extrapolations of this argument can cut both ways, and cited the current bestseller, Freakonomics, which discusses the authors' thesis that abortion reduces crime.
"Then, putting my philosophy professor's hat on, I went on to reveal the limitations of such arguments by showing the absurdity in another such argument, along the same lines. I entertained what law school professors call 'the Socratic method' and what I would hope good social science professors still use in their seminars. In so doing, I suggested a hypothetical analogy while at the same time saying the proposition I was using about blacks and abortion was 'impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible,' just to ensure those who would have any doubt about what they were hearing, or for those who tuned in to the middle of the conversation.
"The issues of crime and race have been on many people's minds, and tongues, for the past month or so--in light of the situation in New Orleans; and the issues of race, crime, and abortion are well aired and ventilated in articles, the academy, the think tank community, and public policy. Indeed the whole issue of crime and race is not new in social science, nor popular literature. One of the authors of Freakonomics, himself, had an extended exchange on the discussion of these issues on the Internet some years back--which was also much debated in the think tank community in Washington.
"A thought experiment about public policy, on national radio, should not have received the condemnations it has. Anyone paying attention to this debate should be offended by those who have selectively quoted me, distorted my meaning, and taken out of context the dialogue I engaged in this week. Such distortions from 'leaders' of organizations and parties is a disgrace not only to the organizations and institutions they serve, but to the First Amendment.
"In sum, let me reiterate what I had hoped my long career had already established: that I renounce all forms of bigotry--and that my record in trying to provide opportunities for, as well as save the lives of, minorities in this country stands up just fine."
From the Desk of William J. Bennett September 30, 2005
"On Wednesday, a caller to my radio show proposed the idea that one good argument for the pro-life position would be that if we didn't have abortions, Social Security would be solvent. I stated my doubts about such a thesis, as well as my opposition to such a form of argument (the audio of the call is available at my Website: bennettmornings.com).
"I then stated that such extrapolations of this argument can cut both ways, and cited the current bestseller, Freakonomics, which discusses the authors' thesis that abortion reduces crime.
"Then, putting my philosophy professor's hat on, I went on to reveal the limitations of such arguments by showing the absurdity in another such argument, along the same lines. I entertained what law school professors call 'the Socratic method' and what I would hope good social science professors still use in their seminars. In so doing, I suggested a hypothetical analogy while at the same time saying the proposition I was using about blacks and abortion was 'impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible,' just to ensure those who would have any doubt about what they were hearing, or for those who tuned in to the middle of the conversation.
"The issues of crime and race have been on many people's minds, and tongues, for the past month or so--in light of the situation in New Orleans; and the issues of race, crime, and abortion are well aired and ventilated in articles, the academy, the think tank community, and public policy. Indeed the whole issue of crime and race is not new in social science, nor popular literature. One of the authors of Freakonomics, himself, had an extended exchange on the discussion of these issues on the Internet some years back--which was also much debated in the think tank community in Washington.
"A thought experiment about public policy, on national radio, should not have received the condemnations it has. Anyone paying attention to this debate should be offended by those who have selectively quoted me, distorted my meaning, and taken out of context the dialogue I engaged in this week. Such distortions from 'leaders' of organizations and parties is a disgrace not only to the organizations and institutions they serve, but to the First Amendment.
"In sum, let me reiterate what I had hoped my long career had already established: that I renounce all forms of bigotry--and that my record in trying to provide opportunities for, as well as save the lives of, minorities in this country stands up just fine."
posted 2005.09.30
posted on September 30th 2005
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Bill Bennett and abortion.... – EEE on September 30th, 2005-
Re: Bill Bennett and abortion.... – kravitz on September 30th, 2005-
Which brings us to an interesting question – PatBrown on September 30th, 2005-
Re: Which brings us to an interesting question – edlorah on September 30th, 2005-
Re: Which brings us to an interesting question – dale on September 30th, 2005-
Re: Which brings us to an interesting question – edlorah on September 30th, 2005-
Re: Now Ed......... – dale on October 1st, 2005-
Re: Now Ed......... – edlorah on October 1st, 2005-
Re: Now Ed......... – dale on October 1st, 2005-
Re: Now Ed......... – edlorah on October 1st, 2005-
Re: Now Ed......... – Andrea on October 1st, 2005
Re: Tsk tsk Ed......... – dale on October 2nd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk Ed......... – blockdog on October 2nd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – dale on October 2nd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – blockdog on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – dale on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – blockdog on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – dale on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk BD......... – blockdog on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Bravo BD......... – dale on October 3rd, 2005-
It is beyond me – PatBrown on October 4th, 2005-
Re: It is beyond me – Andrea on October 4th, 2005-
You have a point – PatBrown on October 4th, 2005-
Moving – Green Mtn on October 4th, 2005
Re: Tsk tsk Ed......... – edlorah on October 2nd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk Ed......... – dale on October 2nd, 2005-
Re: Tsk tsk Ed......... – edlorah on October 3rd, 2005-
Have You Considered the Possibility Fellas – Green Mtn on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Have You Considered the Possibility Fellas – dale on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Have You Considered the Possibility Fellas – blockdog on October 3rd, 2005
Re: Have You Considered the Possibility Fellas – Green Mtn on October 3rd, 2005
Re: Maine is a pain – dale on October 3rd, 2005-
Re: Maine is a pain – edlorah on October 3rd, 2005
Re: Now Ed......... – blockdog on October 2nd, 2005
A Wealth of Poverty – Peter T. on October 1st, 2005
Different angles for ya, Dale...the camel speaks... – Reg on October 3rd, 2005
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