Let's be absolutely fucking honest here...
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For one, let's quite mixing up fucking 9/11 and Iraq, all right? I'm sick and goddamned tired of people trying to link 9/11, Iraq, Hussein and bin Laden. For those that think these are all related, read a little bit and quit spinning your fantasies. Pick up the new copy of the Atlantic magazine and read the lead article so you can even find out that Zarqawi and bin Laden even despised each other. Now, to be perfectly clear, there is not anyone around that cares for American soldiers more than I. But with that, some harsh realities must be acknowledged. Our country invaded Iraq; not the other way around.
Our government made up lies to invade Iraq - lies the Iraqi people knew were lies. Also lies anyone willing to look at the US Government with a little critical thought could have easily deciphered themselves. Security in Iraq is in the pits. There are not enough soldiers now or from the start and this is the sort of thing that happens when there is no security. (Hell, right wingers and pro-Bush people here probably don't even realize that EVEN Tommy Franks wanted more troops initially, but backed down under Rumsfeld's direction.)Lastly, Abu Grahib and what went on in there happened before the beheadings. And for those who do not like to read or study history - recall, at one point those we are fighting attacked Abu Grahib at one point because they felt it better to end the lives of then held women prisoners then allow them to suffer at the hands of the US military. What was going on in Abu Grahib was known to the Iraqi people long before those of us in the US knew. This is not a condoning of beheading of Americans or mistreatment of any soldier, however, the sad thing is this is the sort of thing many predicted because of our own failure to act in the standards we so often preach other countries should adopt.
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For one, let's quite mixing up fucking 9/11 and Iraq, all right? I'm sick and goddamned tired of people trying to link 9/11, Iraq, Hussein and bin Laden. For those that think these are all related, read a little bit and quit spinning your fantasies. Pick up the new copy of the Atlantic magazine and read the lead article so you can even find out that Zarqawi and bin Laden even despised each other. Now, to be perfectly clear, there is not anyone around that cares for American soldiers more than I. But with that, some harsh realities must be acknowledged. Our country invaded Iraq; not the other way around.
Our government made up lies to invade Iraq - lies the Iraqi people knew were lies. Also lies anyone willing to look at the US Government with a little critical thought could have easily deciphered themselves. Security in Iraq is in the pits. There are not enough soldiers now or from the start and this is the sort of thing that happens when there is no security. (Hell, right wingers and pro-Bush people here probably don't even realize that EVEN Tommy Franks wanted more troops initially, but backed down under Rumsfeld's direction.)Lastly, Abu Grahib and what went on in there happened before the beheadings. And for those who do not like to read or study history - recall, at one point those we are fighting attacked Abu Grahib at one point because they felt it better to end the lives of then held women prisoners then allow them to suffer at the hands of the US military. What was going on in Abu Grahib was known to the Iraqi people long before those of us in the US knew. This is not a condoning of beheading of Americans or mistreatment of any soldier, however, the sad thing is this is the sort of thing many predicted because of our own failure to act in the standards we so often preach other countries should adopt.
