Gene what I had meant to say to David after reading Dale's post was that this seemed like a classic case of transference, and that David would be better off not engaging in counter transference. Which obviously he read my mind, as I intended him to, and didn't counter-transfer, thus not setting up an inappropriately intimate relationship. Hey like I said a while back, a troll has no influence over how a non-troll feels. That is the responsibility of the 'trolled' to deal with. You dig? Troll here being a noun as well as a verb, all things considered. When all is said and done. At the end of the day.