Peter T.
location: New Hampshire
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The Backfire Effect occurs when people are faced with facts that contradict their closely held views, and
rather than altering their views, they double-down on their original position. This is clearly an emotionally
driven part of our psychology. I sense, Marc, that you have succumbed to this. And you're not alone.
The National Debt: You seem to forget that President Obama wanted to tackle this thorny issue by
forging a
"Grand Bargain" (tax increases for spending cuts) with the GOP, but they wanted nothing to do with anything,
anything at all, that would give Obama a legislative victory.
Taxes: President Trump has stated that the new tax bill will not benefit him when we know this most
definitely
is not true. He and his family will reap tens of millions of dollars while the masses will receive relative crumbs.
Yes, a few thousand dollars here and there are relative crumbs in the scheme of things. This tax bill wasn't
meant for the folks you care about, Marc, it was a thank you to the donors who got him and the GOP in office.
America's Strength: I think you're referring to our economic/military strength here, Marc. And I agree that
at
present, we lead in these areas. But let me ask you, what was your reaction when our commander in chief
thoughtlessly tweeted that transgender military personnel were no longer welcome? Can you imagine one of
these brave citizens, probably far from home, possibly in a dangerous part of the world, waking up to such a
punch in the gut? And it came from a man with multiple deferments, who boasted that avoiding VD was his
own Vietnam. A man who insulted prisoners of war and gold star families. Did this not give you pause, Marc?Israel: You write them Obama "short shanked them". Gee, as he left office, he signed a 38 billion dollar
military package with them. But you didn't know that. And yes, he push and pushed Bibi to stop those damn
settlements, and to truly engage in talks for a two state solution. Anything short of that will surely result in
Israel being further marginalized on the world stage. The Arab and Persian nations would love to see Israel
become a pariah nation. Haters of Israel want to see it cease to be a democracy. True friends of Israel want it
secure, democratic, and jewish. If it annexes the occupied territories, it cannot be those things. I get it, it
faces an existential threat that we simply cannot relate to.
Healthcare: Surely, Marc, you recall the president boasting of how absolutely beautiful his healthcare
plan
would be for everyone. Only the most foolish, credulous Trump supporters could believe this is what we'll
have. How many struggling people in your neck of the woods will die due to inadequate or non-existant
healthcare? Wouldn't a more just society demand healthcare as a right and if that means a more progressive
tax system (that means the rich pay more, Marc), then so be it!
Trade: By opting out of TPP, the president has given China such a gift as it will forge trade deals with the
rest
of the world, leaving our companies at a real disadvantage. Our manufacturing base won't see the corrosive
effects of this for a while, but the folks in your area will pay a price.
Do you not agree, Marc, that this president has lied at unprecedented levels? Does that not offend you?
Do
you not see what this portends for future elections?
Do his repeated racists statements not offend you? My Ugandan-born sister-in-law came here and
obtained
computer science and nursing degrees. Decades ago, I tutored a Haitian immigrant who was operating his
own HVAC company. Even if I didn't know these most admirable people, I would be offended mightily by his
off-the-cuff rants. Do you not see Trump for the danger, truly DESPICABLE man-child that he is? And the
people in your region are offended by the "rustbelt" reference? Sheesh, they don't know what it really means
to be marginalized, to be viewed as less than human.
You might recall that a few months ago I wrote a lengthy piece to you about resources that you might
avail
yourselves of. Furthermore, I posed some questions to you. You didn't even respond. I thought that spoke
volumes about your character, Marc, I really did.
In judging Trump, it really does come down to values, Marc, and of the kind of man who you are. It's that
simple.
Peter T.
Peter T.
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The Backfire Effect occurs when people are faced with facts that contradict their closely held views, and
rather than altering their views, they double-down on their original position. This is clearly an emotionally
driven part of our psychology. I sense, Marc, that you have succumbed to this. And you're not alone.
The National Debt: You seem to forget that President Obama wanted to tackle this thorny issue by
forging a
"Grand Bargain" (tax increases for spending cuts) with the GOP, but they wanted nothing to do with anything,
anything at all, that would give Obama a legislative victory.
Taxes: President Trump has stated that the new tax bill will not benefit him when we know this most
definitely
is not true. He and his family will reap tens of millions of dollars while the masses will receive relative crumbs.
Yes, a few thousand dollars here and there are relative crumbs in the scheme of things. This tax bill wasn't
meant for the folks you care about, Marc, it was a thank you to the donors who got him and the GOP in office.
America's Strength: I think you're referring to our economic/military strength here, Marc. And I agree that
at
present, we lead in these areas. But let me ask you, what was your reaction when our commander in chief
thoughtlessly tweeted that transgender military personnel were no longer welcome? Can you imagine one of
these brave citizens, probably far from home, possibly in a dangerous part of the world, waking up to such a
punch in the gut? And it came from a man with multiple deferments, who boasted that avoiding VD was his
own Vietnam. A man who insulted prisoners of war and gold star families. Did this not give you pause, Marc?Israel: You write them Obama "short shanked them". Gee, as he left office, he signed a 38 billion dollar
military package with them. But you didn't know that. And yes, he push and pushed Bibi to stop those damn
settlements, and to truly engage in talks for a two state solution. Anything short of that will surely result in
Israel being further marginalized on the world stage. The Arab and Persian nations would love to see Israel
become a pariah nation. Haters of Israel want to see it cease to be a democracy. True friends of Israel want it
secure, democratic, and jewish. If it annexes the occupied territories, it cannot be those things. I get it, it
faces an existential threat that we simply cannot relate to.
Healthcare: Surely, Marc, you recall the president boasting of how absolutely beautiful his healthcare
plan
would be for everyone. Only the most foolish, credulous Trump supporters could believe this is what we'll
have. How many struggling people in your neck of the woods will die due to inadequate or non-existant
healthcare? Wouldn't a more just society demand healthcare as a right and if that means a more progressive
tax system (that means the rich pay more, Marc), then so be it!
Trade: By opting out of TPP, the president has given China such a gift as it will forge trade deals with the
rest
of the world, leaving our companies at a real disadvantage. Our manufacturing base won't see the corrosive
effects of this for a while, but the folks in your area will pay a price.
Do you not agree, Marc, that this president has lied at unprecedented levels? Does that not offend you?
Do
you not see what this portends for future elections?
Do his repeated racists statements not offend you? My Ugandan-born sister-in-law came here and
obtained
computer science and nursing degrees. Decades ago, I tutored a Haitian immigrant who was operating his
own HVAC company. Even if I didn't know these most admirable people, I would be offended mightily by his
off-the-cuff rants. Do you not see Trump for the danger, truly DESPICABLE man-child that he is? And the
people in your region are offended by the "rustbelt" reference? Sheesh, they don't know what it really means
to be marginalized, to be viewed as less than human.
You might recall that a few months ago I wrote a lengthy piece to you about resources that you might
avail
yourselves of. Furthermore, I posed some questions to you. You didn't even respond. I thought that spoke
volumes about your character, Marc, I really did.
In judging Trump, it really does come down to values, Marc, and of the kind of man who you are. It's that
simple.
Peter T.
posted 2018.01.14
posted on January 14th 2018
Peter T.
location: New Hampshire
listening to: Too much of everything!
registered: 1999.05.20
posts: 3017
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Fire and Fury – Andrea on January 7th, 2018-
Re: Fire and Fury – Reg on January 7th, 2018-
Re: Fire and Fury – Andrea on January 7th, 2018-
As we approach the end of the world... – Reg on January 10th, 2018-
Re: As we approach the end of the world... – Reg on January 10th, 2018-
Re: As we approach the end of the world... – Andrea on January 11th, 2018-
Re: As we approach the end of the world... – Reg on January 12th, 2018
Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Marc on January 12th, 2018-
Blah, blah, blah....don't feed the Troll – EEE on January 13th, 2018-
Re: Blah, blah, blah....don't feed the Troll – Marc on January 13th, 2018-
Re: Blah, blah, blah....don't feed the Troll...just like a Trump – EEE on January 13th, 2018
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Dan on January 14th, 2018-
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – heathcliffe on January 14th, 2018-
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Marc on January 20th, 2018-
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Andrea on January 20th, 2018-
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Marc on February 3rd, 2018
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Marc on January 20th, 2018
Bridge of Sighs – Reg on January 14th, 2018
Marc and The Backfire Effect – Peter T. on January 14th, 2018-
Re: Marc and The Backfire Effect – Marc on January 20th, 2018-
Leftist Spin? – Peter T. on January 20th, 2018
Getting Marc off my chest... – Peter T. on January 26th, 2018-
Re: Getting Marc off my chest... – Reg on January 27th, 2018-
Re: Getting Marc off my chest... – Dslacker on February 1st, 2018
Re: Seriously Reg and Andrea? I mean is the world about to end because of drumpf? – Andrea on January 14th, 2018
What that grenade going off got us... – Reg on January 16th, 2018-
Re: What that grenade going off got us... – Marc on January 20th, 2018-
Re: What that grenade going off got us... – heathcliffe on January 20th, 2018
Re: What that grenade going off got us... – heathcliffe on January 20th, 2018
Re: What that grenade going off got us... – Dan on January 21st, 2018
A request, Marc... – Reg on January 21st, 2018
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