Yes Dan I would agree, and yes I am in the 3rd group. I dislike conspiracy theories and consider the q people to be nuttier than squirrel shit personally. And yes too that it was the way mail in ballots got abused so badly by states unaccustomed to it and at the last minute because well "covid!" that bothers me. 

As I think I've already said though, it doesn't really matter now since I still believe in our constitution and if congress ratifies the vote well then it's over.

And as you also pointed out, I don't think the left ever got over 2016 and perhaps I am only frustrated in the same way but on the other side.

I stand by my response to Peter though that there is heavy corruption not just in Washington but all the way down to the states and even school boards from both parties and that is what frustrates me the most.