Kent, I very seldom respond to your  posts because you almost universally refuse to listen to reason, but I will at least this once, because you are coming acros to me as badgering Dan and Pat. My perception is that you refuse to see another person's side to any given situation. If you feel you are right, or have been wronged in some way, you twist words, accuse and attack the other person. It appears to me that you are willfully trying to piss Dan, Pat and anybody else off so much that this site dies away. You have many opinions and beliefs that could be described as fringe, that is your right. I believe almost none of them, but I used to read all of your posts, now I avoid many of them. As I stated in an earlier post you seem incapable of self-control. You post incessantly, you always have an off-putting comment ready when you disagree with someone or they disagree with you. As an example, when Dan asked for proof, just point it out, there was no need for the, why are you questioning me, histrionics. I believe I have always been polite to everyone I've responded to on this board and I've read just about every message since the beginning. I love this info board, it's the only one I am actively involved with and I am upset that your words and actions are directly affecting its future and the two people who work so hard to make it a wonderful site. Now please understand I am not attacking you. I'm not talking about what you say, but how you say it, there is an important difference. And one more thing, do you realize that upper case letters are the equivalent of shouting at someone, I gently suggest that you use them sparingly, if at all. Kent please listen to what some of us have shared as to the problem we are having with you, maybe just maybe you might share some responsibility in this brouhaha . . . please take this as a constructive message not an attack . . .