Green Mtn
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Hi Dave:DT> No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies. No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies. No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies.And yet, fewer and fewer Americans believe the official conspiracy story. I mean, can we agree, there was a conspiracy behind these cataclysmic events. And then, doesn't the question become, 'who planned said conspiracy'.
I would direct your attention to:http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/there you will find 300 or so credentialed folk, who among them likely have acceptable credentials to support Mr Reynolds proposition.
Though common tactic(s) recently regularly applied on a variety of public opinion creation programing such as Hannity and Colmes or O'Reilly, pooh poohing the barers credentials, or shouting the guest down, does not qualify as a detailed refutation of their argument(s). Or even a hearing. What's the talking heads afraid of folks hearing.Which brings me to the question of whether you noted a recent post regarding the physics of free fall associated with controled demolition and how it aplied to the 3 WTC events of 9/11? And if so, why not defend the official version then.Just fer fun:In fine: 1)Planes hit the Towers. The author agrees with you but is questioning 'what planes', as you surely noted. The point is not to answer the imponderables such as what became of the original planes, and/or passengers, that is a tact designed to distract from the necessity of speaking to the verifiable evidence; which evidence is/has been established by means of mathematics, the remenant of physical and visual data, forensics, seismic data, sworn testimony, and other verifiable evidence at variance with standard governmental operational procedures, which so obviously contradict the official position. The point is to establish who, in fact, perpetrated this crime. A great many Americans, myself among them, believe the evidence demonstrates that the official story was always more than a little hokey(even for us uncredentialed types), and that the evidence pieced together over the past 5 years(by a cast of thousands) -unfortunately but not surprisingly- indicates there was knowing complicity in the highest levels of the United States government. (Regarding the what happened to the planes/passengers distraction questions: it stands to reason, they too were sacrificed in the cover-up of this horrific crime.)2) The impacts damaged critical insulation on some of the structural components. A plausible distraction until one does a very little research. Unfortunately it never comes in to play because even if the necessary temperatures to weaken steel were momentarily achieved, which is highly improbable, they certainly were not maintained long enough to warp the entirety of three buildings.
3) Simultaneously, the fuel explosions triggered severe paper/wood fires in the building offices. Severe paper and wood fires!? You're in mining if I recall. Do not explosives have to be directed, i.e., the charge focused? Even assuming the jet fuel is as impressive as it sounds, wouldn't the remaining kerosene by definition be an unfocused explosive expending its energy almost instantly in all directions? Thus severely diluting its actual potential destructive energy/force.4) Heat from the fires weakened the now-naked building components (joints) to the point of failure. C'mon, what are the unfathomalble odds for that occurence in three structures on the same day on every single floor.Besides, kerosene, nor paper, carpet, desks or office supplies provide the requisite sustained temperatures.5)The initial failures triggered a chain reaction of structural failures. C'mon! That caused three buildings to free fall, completely pulverized, essentially into their own footprint(by definition, the defining trait of controled demolition(s)). That's even less believeable as one of the alledged hijackers identification showing up undamaged at the base of the rubble or 19 men with box cutters overpowering 4 jet airliners, while NORAD sat on it's hands for 80 minutes contrary to all previous history.
6) The Towers came down.So they did, 3 of 'em, and just imagine, independently verifiable data refute our governments conspiracy tale. What are the odds.Hey, I'm trying ...
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
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Hi Dave:DT> No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies. No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies. No conspiracy theories are needed to explain this aspect of the 9/11 tragedies.And yet, fewer and fewer Americans believe the official conspiracy story. I mean, can we agree, there was a conspiracy behind these cataclysmic events. And then, doesn't the question become, 'who planned said conspiracy'.
I would direct your attention to:http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/there you will find 300 or so credentialed folk, who among them likely have acceptable credentials to support Mr Reynolds proposition.
Though common tactic(s) recently regularly applied on a variety of public opinion creation programing such as Hannity and Colmes or O'Reilly, pooh poohing the barers credentials, or shouting the guest down, does not qualify as a detailed refutation of their argument(s). Or even a hearing. What's the talking heads afraid of folks hearing.Which brings me to the question of whether you noted a recent post regarding the physics of free fall associated with controled demolition and how it aplied to the 3 WTC events of 9/11? And if so, why not defend the official version then.Just fer fun:In fine: 1)Planes hit the Towers. The author agrees with you but is questioning 'what planes', as you surely noted. The point is not to answer the imponderables such as what became of the original planes, and/or passengers, that is a tact designed to distract from the necessity of speaking to the verifiable evidence; which evidence is/has been established by means of mathematics, the remenant of physical and visual data, forensics, seismic data, sworn testimony, and other verifiable evidence at variance with standard governmental operational procedures, which so obviously contradict the official position. The point is to establish who, in fact, perpetrated this crime. A great many Americans, myself among them, believe the evidence demonstrates that the official story was always more than a little hokey(even for us uncredentialed types), and that the evidence pieced together over the past 5 years(by a cast of thousands) -unfortunately but not surprisingly- indicates there was knowing complicity in the highest levels of the United States government. (Regarding the what happened to the planes/passengers distraction questions: it stands to reason, they too were sacrificed in the cover-up of this horrific crime.)2) The impacts damaged critical insulation on some of the structural components. A plausible distraction until one does a very little research. Unfortunately it never comes in to play because even if the necessary temperatures to weaken steel were momentarily achieved, which is highly improbable, they certainly were not maintained long enough to warp the entirety of three buildings.
3) Simultaneously, the fuel explosions triggered severe paper/wood fires in the building offices. Severe paper and wood fires!? You're in mining if I recall. Do not explosives have to be directed, i.e., the charge focused? Even assuming the jet fuel is as impressive as it sounds, wouldn't the remaining kerosene by definition be an unfocused explosive expending its energy almost instantly in all directions? Thus severely diluting its actual potential destructive energy/force.4) Heat from the fires weakened the now-naked building components (joints) to the point of failure. C'mon, what are the unfathomalble odds for that occurence in three structures on the same day on every single floor.Besides, kerosene, nor paper, carpet, desks or office supplies provide the requisite sustained temperatures.5)The initial failures triggered a chain reaction of structural failures. C'mon! That caused three buildings to free fall, completely pulverized, essentially into their own footprint(by definition, the defining trait of controled demolition(s)). That's even less believeable as one of the alledged hijackers identification showing up undamaged at the base of the rubble or 19 men with box cutters overpowering 4 jet airliners, while NORAD sat on it's hands for 80 minutes contrary to all previous history.
6) The Towers came down.So they did, 3 of 'em, and just imagine, independently verifiable data refute our governments conspiracy tale. What are the odds.Hey, I'm trying ...
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
