aha......well done...you too Dale...i'm on my third one now and the night's young if somewhat depressing...I was just thinking about one of those bands i like (marillion) they have a weekend every year where they have a convention and all their hardcore fan base descend on weston super mare or some other anorak town and the band shows up and plays and everyone 'bonds'...if the dbinfo source had this facility t'would be great...oops i'm lapsing into the mother tongue...t'would have to be over here to be sure to be sure...ha ha ha...off shoots would include me and Eugene and PRH and DB doing a jam and everyone getting really 'caned'...ah well