KentDB741
location: Buffalo, New York USA
listening to: The sweet music of YES
registered: 2001.11.12
posts: 1355
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Ian:Yes Ian, my life story is one fuck-over after another . . .
obviously, it has made me somewhat morose and bitter ---
and you would probably react in much the same way I did, if
even HALF of this shit happened to you.I'll give you one example of IGNORANT SLOBS AT A CONCERT,
which was for me the last straw of going to large-scale
concerts.Dave Matthews Band - 2001 (Buffalo, New York)It was a SOLD-OUT show, and in the OBSTRUCTED VIEW
WHEELCHAIR SEATING SECTION my wife and I were sitting in
had myself, and one other guy next to me who was completely
paralyzed --- he could not even move his head if someone
stood in front of him.The show starts --- and immediately --- directly in front of
us are six teenage girls who were no older than 15 or 16 years
of age. They get up, and STAND ON TOP OF THEIR SEATS for
the entire show --- neither myself or the paralyzed guy could
see anything on stage --- not even the video screens --- the
seats were so horrible.The paralyzed guy next to me asked my wife and the two
people he was with --- to politely ask these people to sit
down --- or at least to get down off the top of the seats, so
we could see something. I was able to stretch and move quite
a bit more than the paralyzed guy --- and I felt sorry for him,
especially as he said DMB was his favorite band --- and that
was his FIRST SHOW HE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE by the band.
Myself, I had seen them several times before, at venues of
varying size.I asked these girls probably ten times to please sit down so we
could see. There was no one standing in front of them, so
there was no reason why they needed to do this. First of all, I
get very upset when a little 15 year old tells me to go fuck
myself. There was no reason for that rudeness --- and after
that, I went to several people in the arena to get these people
to sit down so we could see. However --- most teens of today are self-involved, selfish,
and care about nothing other than matters of import to their
own little worlds --- if I would have showed disrespect like
that --- my grandfather would have had me under some
outrageous form of punishment. There is no longer any
respect for elders --- most of the teens I know absolutely do
fit into this category.To make a long story short --- the director of security
threatened to throw me out FOR CAUSING TROUBLE! I was
doing nothing of the sort --- and neither was the paralyzed
guy. So, I paid $250 for tickets, parking, etc. for a concert that I did
not even get to see --- even though I was in the same
building!The next morning, I wrote and faxed a letter to the General
Manager of the Arena to tell him of my experience the night
before. I was basically told that if I wanted to see the show, I
should sit in a different section!I am NOT KIDDING --- this guy actually said this to me when
he called me back in response to my fax. How the fuck am I supposed to sit SOMEPLACE ELSE when I
am in a WHEELCHAIR?!?!?!?!?So basically Ian, it's like this . . . Society in general does not go out of their way to accomidate
people like myself --- which is why we had to go to the
extreme of suing the government to get the AMERICANS WITH
DISABILITIES ACT passed ten years ago. This is also the reason
why the wheelchair sections are always in out of the way
places --- such as in OBSTRUCTED SEATING!Also, I am not really into being humiliated every time I want to
go someplace --- so, I and a lot of other disabled people
simply don't even fucking bother to go to concerts anymore. If
you ever wondered why you never see more than a couple
wheelchairs at any given show, it is for this reason --- most
people would rather not bother than to be completely
humiliated just to participate in a public event such as a
concert.Also, your incredulousness over my statements regarding this
matter show me that you have little or no concern for people
in my situation --- either that, or you are making an
ABSOLUTE ZERO EFFORT to understand what I am trying to
explain to you about what it is like to live life as a disabled
person.I am not saying that the RED CARPET should be rolled out for
me every time I go somewhere --- however --- I do not
believe that COMMON COURTESY is too much for me to ask for
or expect from my fellow human beings --- while in a
common public situation such as a concert.However --- this type of matter is endemic of the ALL FOR
OURSELVES, NIHLISTIC, HEDONISTIC, and COMPLETELY SELFISH
society that AmeriKa has become --- and this is why concepts
such as courtesy and consideration toward others besides
ourselves --- just might be the reason why you do not
understand the point I was originally trying to get across.I am sorry it fell on deaf ears --- but I am used to this type of
a response by this time. This is because at this time --- courtesy and respect of others
is no longer honored nor practiced by the majority of people
--- IGNORANT SLOBS --- I choose to call them.Having a lack of understanding of something is not a crime
--- however --- not even trying to make an effort at
understanding is inexcusable to say the very least. I am very
surprised and somewhat saddened that you have turned out to
be one of the people who isn't trying very hard at the moment.Also . . . one last thing . . . Why do you insist on chastizing me for merely having a
DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU? Who the fuck said we all had
to agree 100% of the time?Once again --- I call them as I see them --- and I offer NO
APOLOGIES TO NO ONE --- not even to you.Also --- going out and enjoying and supporting live music
--- in my book --- never included ruining someone else's
good time. I am quite frankly shocked that you seem to find
no problem with it.Finally --- if you cannot make the logical progression of what
someone is saying in a posting --- then perhaps you should
not respond next time --- what $100 ticket prices have to do
with anything --- is that it happens to be what 85% of the
greedy bands and entertainers are charging their loyal fans
these days.Sheesh!P n' P = KDB
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KentDB741
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Ian:Yes Ian, my life story is one fuck-over after another . . .
obviously, it has made me somewhat morose and bitter ---
and you would probably react in much the same way I did, if
even HALF of this shit happened to you.I'll give you one example of IGNORANT SLOBS AT A CONCERT,
which was for me the last straw of going to large-scale
concerts.Dave Matthews Band - 2001 (Buffalo, New York)It was a SOLD-OUT show, and in the OBSTRUCTED VIEW
WHEELCHAIR SEATING SECTION my wife and I were sitting in
had myself, and one other guy next to me who was completely
paralyzed --- he could not even move his head if someone
stood in front of him.The show starts --- and immediately --- directly in front of
us are six teenage girls who were no older than 15 or 16 years
of age. They get up, and STAND ON TOP OF THEIR SEATS for
the entire show --- neither myself or the paralyzed guy could
see anything on stage --- not even the video screens --- the
seats were so horrible.The paralyzed guy next to me asked my wife and the two
people he was with --- to politely ask these people to sit
down --- or at least to get down off the top of the seats, so
we could see something. I was able to stretch and move quite
a bit more than the paralyzed guy --- and I felt sorry for him,
especially as he said DMB was his favorite band --- and that
was his FIRST SHOW HE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE by the band.
Myself, I had seen them several times before, at venues of
varying size.I asked these girls probably ten times to please sit down so we
could see. There was no one standing in front of them, so
there was no reason why they needed to do this. First of all, I
get very upset when a little 15 year old tells me to go fuck
myself. There was no reason for that rudeness --- and after
that, I went to several people in the arena to get these people
to sit down so we could see. However --- most teens of today are self-involved, selfish,
and care about nothing other than matters of import to their
own little worlds --- if I would have showed disrespect like
that --- my grandfather would have had me under some
outrageous form of punishment. There is no longer any
respect for elders --- most of the teens I know absolutely do
fit into this category.To make a long story short --- the director of security
threatened to throw me out FOR CAUSING TROUBLE! I was
doing nothing of the sort --- and neither was the paralyzed
guy. So, I paid $250 for tickets, parking, etc. for a concert that I did
not even get to see --- even though I was in the same
building!The next morning, I wrote and faxed a letter to the General
Manager of the Arena to tell him of my experience the night
before. I was basically told that if I wanted to see the show, I
should sit in a different section!I am NOT KIDDING --- this guy actually said this to me when
he called me back in response to my fax. How the fuck am I supposed to sit SOMEPLACE ELSE when I
am in a WHEELCHAIR?!?!?!?!?So basically Ian, it's like this . . . Society in general does not go out of their way to accomidate
people like myself --- which is why we had to go to the
extreme of suing the government to get the AMERICANS WITH
DISABILITIES ACT passed ten years ago. This is also the reason
why the wheelchair sections are always in out of the way
places --- such as in OBSTRUCTED SEATING!Also, I am not really into being humiliated every time I want to
go someplace --- so, I and a lot of other disabled people
simply don't even fucking bother to go to concerts anymore. If
you ever wondered why you never see more than a couple
wheelchairs at any given show, it is for this reason --- most
people would rather not bother than to be completely
humiliated just to participate in a public event such as a
concert.Also, your incredulousness over my statements regarding this
matter show me that you have little or no concern for people
in my situation --- either that, or you are making an
ABSOLUTE ZERO EFFORT to understand what I am trying to
explain to you about what it is like to live life as a disabled
person.I am not saying that the RED CARPET should be rolled out for
me every time I go somewhere --- however --- I do not
believe that COMMON COURTESY is too much for me to ask for
or expect from my fellow human beings --- while in a
common public situation such as a concert.However --- this type of matter is endemic of the ALL FOR
OURSELVES, NIHLISTIC, HEDONISTIC, and COMPLETELY SELFISH
society that AmeriKa has become --- and this is why concepts
such as courtesy and consideration toward others besides
ourselves --- just might be the reason why you do not
understand the point I was originally trying to get across.I am sorry it fell on deaf ears --- but I am used to this type of
a response by this time. This is because at this time --- courtesy and respect of others
is no longer honored nor practiced by the majority of people
--- IGNORANT SLOBS --- I choose to call them.Having a lack of understanding of something is not a crime
--- however --- not even trying to make an effort at
understanding is inexcusable to say the very least. I am very
surprised and somewhat saddened that you have turned out to
be one of the people who isn't trying very hard at the moment.Also . . . one last thing . . . Why do you insist on chastizing me for merely having a
DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU? Who the fuck said we all had
to agree 100% of the time?Once again --- I call them as I see them --- and I offer NO
APOLOGIES TO NO ONE --- not even to you.Also --- going out and enjoying and supporting live music
--- in my book --- never included ruining someone else's
good time. I am quite frankly shocked that you seem to find
no problem with it.Finally --- if you cannot make the logical progression of what
someone is saying in a posting --- then perhaps you should
not respond next time --- what $100 ticket prices have to do
with anything --- is that it happens to be what 85% of the
greedy bands and entertainers are charging their loyal fans
these days.Sheesh!P n' P = KDB
