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The reason I posted that conversation...though I am considering deleting
it...is that it was obvious to me, and I saw it coming, that this guy
really was not paying attention at all to what Trump and the Republicans
are actually doing.
I don't know if all Trump supporters are as poorly informed but I
suspect
they are because if they knew what was happening they would likely be
furious.
All economic signs point to a big bad bubble that is about to burst
and
the people that will suffer will be...the people that voted for Trump out
of desperation that believed his nonsense. This will be really ugly.
I will try to just give a very simple explanation of what is going on
with our economy and hope that Pat or Marc or any Republican reading this
understands it.
So, we have been in an economic upturn mostly thanks to Obama on the
job growth side but Trump and the Republicans have stimulated the economy
as
well...but not in any kind of sustainable way and they know this. The tax
cuts they did have greatly helped rich people get much richer and have
allowed them to do all the stock buybacks they do in these situations.
Plus they have thrown in stimulus spending, which they told Obama he
absolutely could not do, along with the tax cuts.
So, money and wealth are being generated but only for the super rich. The
middle class is actually seeing pay stay the same or decrease while all
of their expenses increase. So, they are actually doing worse and on the
whole are taking a pay cut because their earnings can't keep up with cost
increases.
Despite this their spending is up but it is spending through
credit...meaning money they don't have. So, not only is their pay not
increasing, their costs rising, but their debt is now rising drastically.
This is a very bad sign.
While this is going on Trump is keeping his promise to skyrocket our
national deficit. It has already just in 2018 rocketed up 30% and the
Republicans are planning round 2 of tax breaks for the super wealthy. As
our deficit skyrockets government tax revenue plummets because the
Republicans basically want to wipe out all tax responsibility for the
wealthy in this country.
So, this means all of the tax burden of this nation is being shifted
off
of giant companies and the super wealthy and onto the middle class...who
are struggling to keep up with increasing costs and debt while the money
they earn is stagnant.
This means that the Republicans will be able to do things they have
always wanted to do. Wipe out Medicare and Medicaid. Wipe out social
security. Wipe out social spending all across the board and absolutely
devastate the middle class.
And when these Trump supporters that so badly wanted jobs start
asking
them what happened these horrible bastards are going to tell them "You
can't pay your bills so you can't have any benefits. Now go away." and
then they will go smoke a cigar and drink a nice scotch that are worth
more than these people earn in a week.
And those jobs they so wanted...well...those are going to go away
too. If
you just take a peek at the closings, cutbacks, and downsizing...while at
the same time doing stock buybacks...that are going on now and lined up
to happen, well, people will be begin to lose their jobs, homes, and all
hope.
The shareholders get richer, the richest 1% will make a killing. The
workers...they are staring into an abyss. The companies will see more
profit but that profit won't be shared with the workers.
While these giant companies use the resources of this country, all of
the
infrastructure, to make gigantic obscene profits the cost of actually
maintaining these things will be expected to be taken out of the
paychecks of the middle class.
The theory for these Republicans that are using the Trump presidency
to
cram all this through is simple...those that benefit most should
contribute the least.
My client likes the bluster of Trump. The threats he makes, the
nonsense
he spews, the empty slogans. But he has no idea what Trump is actually
doing. If you ask about specific things his answers will be "Who?",
"What?", "That's fake news!"
Another person I know through business dealings that is a bright guy,
voted for Trump, and likes to talk about politics when he sees me also
buries his head in the sand when you talk specifics.
His take on what happened in Helsinki, which he knew and understood
was
appalling and would have freaked out had a Democrat done it, he created
an entire fantasy around. He claimed Trump was pretending to be Putin's
sex toy to fool him and it was all just a clever trick.
When I detailed all that was wrong with that the guy refused to budge
and
just said it has to be that Trump was playing Putin somehow by pretending
to worship him.
In other words...he just chooses not to believe the facts, what is
right
in front of him, and prefers a fantasy over reality.
There are a certain segment of people that just want to hear somebody
say
nasty crap about the people they dislike. That's enough to make them
stand up and cheer.
So, they will chant to build a wall and to lock her up and that the
media
is the enemy of the people...but when we have a real honest to goodness
national emergency that should be addressed immediately...like say deadly
contaminated water being pumped into people's homes because EVERY person
in this country should expect that they have access to clean
uncontaminated water...well do they chant about that? Nope. Does the
Trump administration address that? Nope. In fact, the Trump
administration instead goes on a crusade to increase the amount of toxins
in our environment, to increase the amount of methane, greenhouse gases,
and all kinds of pollutants into our air and water systems. To remove
regulations to prevent that and prevent lawsuits that prosecute the
parties responsible.
This means we will see more and more incidents of people being
exposed to
toxic drinking water flowing out of their faucets.
Aren't we supposed to be a first world country? We can't even get
people
clean drinking water and yet we have boobs in this country that want to
waste money on building a wall and give tax breaks to the very people
that are poisoning our water and air...while making them immune to
prosecution for doing so.
Can't make America great again if you can't even drink a glass of
water
in this country.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
Reg
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The reason I posted that conversation...though I am considering deleting
it...is that it was obvious to me, and I saw it coming, that this guy
really was not paying attention at all to what Trump and the Republicans
are actually doing.
I don't know if all Trump supporters are as poorly informed but I
suspect
they are because if they knew what was happening they would likely be
furious.
All economic signs point to a big bad bubble that is about to burst
and
the people that will suffer will be...the people that voted for Trump out
of desperation that believed his nonsense. This will be really ugly.
I will try to just give a very simple explanation of what is going on
with our economy and hope that Pat or Marc or any Republican reading this
understands it.
So, we have been in an economic upturn mostly thanks to Obama on the
job growth side but Trump and the Republicans have stimulated the economy
as
well...but not in any kind of sustainable way and they know this. The tax
cuts they did have greatly helped rich people get much richer and have
allowed them to do all the stock buybacks they do in these situations.
Plus they have thrown in stimulus spending, which they told Obama he
absolutely could not do, along with the tax cuts.
So, money and wealth are being generated but only for the super rich. The
middle class is actually seeing pay stay the same or decrease while all
of their expenses increase. So, they are actually doing worse and on the
whole are taking a pay cut because their earnings can't keep up with cost
increases.
Despite this their spending is up but it is spending through
credit...meaning money they don't have. So, not only is their pay not
increasing, their costs rising, but their debt is now rising drastically.
This is a very bad sign.
While this is going on Trump is keeping his promise to skyrocket our
national deficit. It has already just in 2018 rocketed up 30% and the
Republicans are planning round 2 of tax breaks for the super wealthy. As
our deficit skyrockets government tax revenue plummets because the
Republicans basically want to wipe out all tax responsibility for the
wealthy in this country.
So, this means all of the tax burden of this nation is being shifted
off
of giant companies and the super wealthy and onto the middle class...who
are struggling to keep up with increasing costs and debt while the money
they earn is stagnant.
This means that the Republicans will be able to do things they have
always wanted to do. Wipe out Medicare and Medicaid. Wipe out social
security. Wipe out social spending all across the board and absolutely
devastate the middle class.
And when these Trump supporters that so badly wanted jobs start
asking
them what happened these horrible bastards are going to tell them "You
can't pay your bills so you can't have any benefits. Now go away." and
then they will go smoke a cigar and drink a nice scotch that are worth
more than these people earn in a week.
And those jobs they so wanted...well...those are going to go away
too. If
you just take a peek at the closings, cutbacks, and downsizing...while at
the same time doing stock buybacks...that are going on now and lined up
to happen, well, people will be begin to lose their jobs, homes, and all
hope.
The shareholders get richer, the richest 1% will make a killing. The
workers...they are staring into an abyss. The companies will see more
profit but that profit won't be shared with the workers.
While these giant companies use the resources of this country, all of
the
infrastructure, to make gigantic obscene profits the cost of actually
maintaining these things will be expected to be taken out of the
paychecks of the middle class.
The theory for these Republicans that are using the Trump presidency
to
cram all this through is simple...those that benefit most should
contribute the least.
My client likes the bluster of Trump. The threats he makes, the
nonsense
he spews, the empty slogans. But he has no idea what Trump is actually
doing. If you ask about specific things his answers will be "Who?",
"What?", "That's fake news!"
Another person I know through business dealings that is a bright guy,
voted for Trump, and likes to talk about politics when he sees me also
buries his head in the sand when you talk specifics.
His take on what happened in Helsinki, which he knew and understood
was
appalling and would have freaked out had a Democrat done it, he created
an entire fantasy around. He claimed Trump was pretending to be Putin's
sex toy to fool him and it was all just a clever trick.
When I detailed all that was wrong with that the guy refused to budge
and
just said it has to be that Trump was playing Putin somehow by pretending
to worship him.
In other words...he just chooses not to believe the facts, what is
right
in front of him, and prefers a fantasy over reality.
There are a certain segment of people that just want to hear somebody
say
nasty crap about the people they dislike. That's enough to make them
stand up and cheer.
So, they will chant to build a wall and to lock her up and that the
media
is the enemy of the people...but when we have a real honest to goodness
national emergency that should be addressed immediately...like say deadly
contaminated water being pumped into people's homes because EVERY person
in this country should expect that they have access to clean
uncontaminated water...well do they chant about that? Nope. Does the
Trump administration address that? Nope. In fact, the Trump
administration instead goes on a crusade to increase the amount of toxins
in our environment, to increase the amount of methane, greenhouse gases,
and all kinds of pollutants into our air and water systems. To remove
regulations to prevent that and prevent lawsuits that prosecute the
parties responsible.
This means we will see more and more incidents of people being
exposed to
toxic drinking water flowing out of their faucets.
Aren't we supposed to be a first world country? We can't even get
people
clean drinking water and yet we have boobs in this country that want to
waste money on building a wall and give tax breaks to the very people
that are poisoning our water and air...while making them immune to
prosecution for doing so.
Can't make America great again if you can't even drink a glass of
water
in this country.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
