Well, I think our huge issue is that the right has staked out a bunch of provable falsehoods as their "turf" and in doing so, and this is built-in to why this was done, ended the ability to have reasonable conversations. 

I don't hate anybody that believes these fruit loop things. CRT, stolen elections, that the left are a bunch of radicals...these things are total nonsense. They believe them BECAUSE it is a way to do what Kevin's brother did to him...just shut him off and not listen to a word he says.

As Kevin points out, there likely is some issues for a person that has done this to come back in off that ledge. They would need to admit they were conned and fell for this stuff. That is probably a big ask. 

Policy and decisions that get made are obviously debatable things. Funny thing about the Republicans is they don't want to talk about policy. Mitch openly said they would not tell anybody anything about any policy until they are given back control of the Senate and House...which likely is coming soon. Elected Republicans don't want to debate and will not talk. Their stance is NO to anything Democrats say or attempt and promote all sorts of lunatic fringe nonsense to keep their voters deep in some weird fantasy land. 

I think these people, the ones running the con should be hated by their voters. Their voters though don't hate them for lying to them...they hate them when they don't lie to them enough.

Trump who had been out promoting vaccines has been advised to stop promoting them because his "base" does not believe in the vaccine. Seriously, they want fiction and lies or there is backlash. 

Not normal and it is not about having conversations or hating anybody. It is one side has so snowed their followers that their followers do not want them to stop burying them in the bullshit and the fear is from the Republicans that are worried about their own voters turning on them if they stop lying. 

How messed up is that, Ross?