Charlie Bukowski was very fond of cats. So fond of cats in fact he owned truckloads of them. This was because he believed that the more cats you owned the longer you would live. You know Rich, it's easy to find something about a person that makes them seem an idiot. It's easy to be a cheap shot artist. That's why we have so many of them. It's a lot more difficult to take a cold hard look at yourself and be honest about what you discover. This is a necessary evil though if you are ever to become anything that resembles an interesting and intelligent human being. I suppose just what's interesting about a person is a matter of personal opinion. Of course, to use a well worn cliche here, opinions are like assholes everyone's got one.
With regards to politics and anyone else's understanding of policy and policy makers...it was always supposed to be about the people first. The founding fathers never could have forseen what would become of this country and the documents they drafted then (what was that one that began "We the people...") seem upon reading them in light of our times quite innocent and simple. They are also full of hope, determination, faith, and righteousness. Which is why people have always been attracted to them like moths to a flame and why they have stood the test of time. These are all things that seem to be in short supply in our world today. Innocence, simplicity, hope, faith, righteousness. We are all now a bit more world weary and worse for the wear I'm afraid.
So what's my point right? It seems I'm just rambling. Why the hell not though? You are one of our most beloved ramblers here on the Baerwald board as is our good friend KentDB. In a lot of ways you are very similar although neither one of you would probably care to admit it. What I was trying to say in a round about way is that when you build something, be it a house, or an argument you need to start with a good solid foundation. Talk radio, Sunday morning talking head shows on the tube, the internet, and the lastest issue of your favorite conservative rag will not enlighten you. As much as you seem to like to promote yourself as far more well informed than the rest of us leftist slobs. You know a debate is supposed to be an exchange of information. It is supposed to provide you with an opposing view that you may ponder in some sort of thoughtful manner. It is a great service that you provide with your postings and I enjoy reading them. I just wish you would start with a better foundation for the house of cards you often provide us with. In other words step outside of the rather narrow path you tread occasionally. Poke your head up out of the sand and have a look at things maybe in a different light. Maybe things look different at sunrise than they do at sunset than they do at high noon. Isn't that why Monet painted all those haystacks? In other words, if I'm not being clear, we could all be describing the same thing, yet seen in a different light, none of us concur but there's a bit of truth in all of it. Like the blind men and the elephant.
So I guess our founding fathers would be hard pressed to find what they would consider a patriot in Washington these days. As interests there are determined by lobbyists and run toward big business much more so than to "We the people..."
Would they understand spin? Or could they even fathom the enormous machine that is now our government? It no longer even vaguely seems to embody their ideals.
Mose Allison sang "Your mind is on vacation but your mouth is working overtime." and this is often how you come off. But hey man, that Bukowski thing was entertaining. So that's cool, you're good for a laugh even when you're being a bit deranged. Keep up the good work. And remember man, it's ok to get outta line sometimes...especially when you've forgotten the reason you got in line to begin with. What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding anyway Rich? Oh yeah, when you resort to just making fun of folks it's usually an indication that you don't have much left in your bag...bag o'tricks that is.
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Charlie Bukowski was very fond of cats. So fond of cats in fact he owned truckloads of them. This was because he believed that the more cats you owned the longer you would live. You know Rich, it's easy to find something about a person that makes them seem an idiot. It's easy to be a cheap shot artist. That's why we have so many of them. It's a lot more difficult to take a cold hard look at yourself and be honest about what you discover. This is a necessary evil though if you are ever to become anything that resembles an interesting and intelligent human being. I suppose just what's interesting about a person is a matter of personal opinion. Of course, to use a well worn cliche here, opinions are like assholes everyone's got one.
With regards to politics and anyone else's understanding of policy and policy makers...it was always supposed to be about the people first. The founding fathers never could have forseen what would become of this country and the documents they drafted then (what was that one that began "We the people...") seem upon reading them in light of our times quite innocent and simple. They are also full of hope, determination, faith, and righteousness. Which is why people have always been attracted to them like moths to a flame and why they have stood the test of time. These are all things that seem to be in short supply in our world today. Innocence, simplicity, hope, faith, righteousness. We are all now a bit more world weary and worse for the wear I'm afraid.
So what's my point right? It seems I'm just rambling. Why the hell not though? You are one of our most beloved ramblers here on the Baerwald board as is our good friend KentDB. In a lot of ways you are very similar although neither one of you would probably care to admit it. What I was trying to say in a round about way is that when you build something, be it a house, or an argument you need to start with a good solid foundation. Talk radio, Sunday morning talking head shows on the tube, the internet, and the lastest issue of your favorite conservative rag will not enlighten you. As much as you seem to like to promote yourself as far more well informed than the rest of us leftist slobs. You know a debate is supposed to be an exchange of information. It is supposed to provide you with an opposing view that you may ponder in some sort of thoughtful manner. It is a great service that you provide with your postings and I enjoy reading them. I just wish you would start with a better foundation for the house of cards you often provide us with. In other words step outside of the rather narrow path you tread occasionally. Poke your head up out of the sand and have a look at things maybe in a different light. Maybe things look different at sunrise than they do at sunset than they do at high noon. Isn't that why Monet painted all those haystacks? In other words, if I'm not being clear, we could all be describing the same thing, yet seen in a different light, none of us concur but there's a bit of truth in all of it. Like the blind men and the elephant.
So I guess our founding fathers would be hard pressed to find what they would consider a patriot in Washington these days. As interests there are determined by lobbyists and run toward big business much more so than to "We the people..."
Would they understand spin? Or could they even fathom the enormous machine that is now our government? It no longer even vaguely seems to embody their ideals.
Mose Allison sang "Your mind is on vacation but your mouth is working overtime." and this is often how you come off. But hey man, that Bukowski thing was entertaining. So that's cool, you're good for a laugh even when you're being a bit deranged. Keep up the good work. And remember man, it's ok to get outta line sometimes...especially when you've forgotten the reason you got in line to begin with. What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding anyway Rich? Oh yeah, when you resort to just making fun of folks it's usually an indication that you don't have much left in your bag...bag o'tricks that is.
Reg
With regards to politics and anyone else's understanding of policy and policy makers...it was always supposed to be about the people first. The founding fathers never could have forseen what would become of this country and the documents they drafted then (what was that one that began "We the people...") seem upon reading them in light of our times quite innocent and simple. They are also full of hope, determination, faith, and righteousness. Which is why people have always been attracted to them like moths to a flame and why they have stood the test of time. These are all things that seem to be in short supply in our world today. Innocence, simplicity, hope, faith, righteousness. We are all now a bit more world weary and worse for the wear I'm afraid.
So what's my point right? It seems I'm just rambling. Why the hell not though? You are one of our most beloved ramblers here on the Baerwald board as is our good friend KentDB. In a lot of ways you are very similar although neither one of you would probably care to admit it. What I was trying to say in a round about way is that when you build something, be it a house, or an argument you need to start with a good solid foundation. Talk radio, Sunday morning talking head shows on the tube, the internet, and the lastest issue of your favorite conservative rag will not enlighten you. As much as you seem to like to promote yourself as far more well informed than the rest of us leftist slobs. You know a debate is supposed to be an exchange of information. It is supposed to provide you with an opposing view that you may ponder in some sort of thoughtful manner. It is a great service that you provide with your postings and I enjoy reading them. I just wish you would start with a better foundation for the house of cards you often provide us with. In other words step outside of the rather narrow path you tread occasionally. Poke your head up out of the sand and have a look at things maybe in a different light. Maybe things look different at sunrise than they do at sunset than they do at high noon. Isn't that why Monet painted all those haystacks? In other words, if I'm not being clear, we could all be describing the same thing, yet seen in a different light, none of us concur but there's a bit of truth in all of it. Like the blind men and the elephant.
So I guess our founding fathers would be hard pressed to find what they would consider a patriot in Washington these days. As interests there are determined by lobbyists and run toward big business much more so than to "We the people..."
Would they understand spin? Or could they even fathom the enormous machine that is now our government? It no longer even vaguely seems to embody their ideals.
Mose Allison sang "Your mind is on vacation but your mouth is working overtime." and this is often how you come off. But hey man, that Bukowski thing was entertaining. So that's cool, you're good for a laugh even when you're being a bit deranged. Keep up the good work. And remember man, it's ok to get outta line sometimes...especially when you've forgotten the reason you got in line to begin with. What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding anyway Rich? Oh yeah, when you resort to just making fun of folks it's usually an indication that you don't have much left in your bag...bag o'tricks that is.
Reg
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'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
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posted on June 22nd 2002
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