Green Mtn
location: Observing the Progressive madness with considerably less amusement.
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Reg Reg Reg:I don't believe unrestrained capitalism is serving us well at all.
It allows greedy wealthy men to buy seats in government
where they get together and carry out all sorts of pernicious
acts for dreams of empire, or at least, the lining of their, and
their supporters, portfolios.Reg: I would say to you that I don't see the possibility of being
both a Capitalist and a Christian...would seem you'd be
serving two seperate Gods.Only if you love the money as much or more than God, thus
committing idolatry. Otherwise, business is as old as man
and perfectly honorable if carried out in that fashion.Reg: Naughty, naughty from the Christian standpoint...Again, you judge how Christianity believes and/or should
behave, without any supporting evidence. So that you can be
accurate in the future, I provided some authorative excerpts
below.Making money is not evil. Doing good honest business is not
antiChristian. Paul was a tent maker, Jesus a carpenter; do
you think fisherman do not also sell their catch? C'mon Reg.
Even barter is capitalism.I always thought the language of capitalism was bookkeeping.
Tax accounting being what makes it foul.Business as a religion? Assuredly for some, but for most
others, honest self determination. We all gotta earn our keep
somehow:
2Th 3:10* ... if any would not work, neither should he eat.
- PaulYou sound in a bad way today, and I am sorry for your
troubles(if correct) but you've turned Jesus and Christianity
into some sort of Disney dreaminess unrelated to factual
reality. Just like they do wild beasts who are a desirable
characature but equally inaccurate.respects Reg!ps don't miss the final excerpt regarding the traits of a
virtuous woman. It's God's opinion mon ...1Ti 6:10* For THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil: which
while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and
pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
- PaulNote Verse 13, 15, 23, and the error of 21: 11* ¶ And as they heard these things, he added and spake a
parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they
thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12* He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far
country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13* And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten
pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14* But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him,
saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15* And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having
received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to
be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he
might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained
ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because
thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority
over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath
gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy
pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou
takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou
didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I
judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an
austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I
did not sow:
23* Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank,
that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the
pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25* (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26* For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall
be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall
be taken away from him.
27* But those mine enemies, which would not that I should
reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
- JesusRo 12:11* Not slothful in business; ...
- PaulPr 11:1* A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a
just weight is his delight.
Pr 16:11* A just weight and balance are the LORD’S: all the
weights of the bag are his work.
Pr 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD;
and a false balance is not good.
Note business traits of a virtuous woman, 14, 16, 18, 24, 31:
Pr 31:10* ¶ Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is
far above rubies.
11* The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that
he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13* She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with
her hands.
14* She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food
from afar.
15* She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to
her household, and a portion to her maidens.
16* She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of
her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17* She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth
her arms.
18* She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle
goeth not out by night.
19* She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold
the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth
forth her hands to the needy.
21* She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all
her household are clothed with scarlet.
22* She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is
silk and purple.
23* Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth
among the elders of the land.
24* She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth
girdles unto the merchant.
25* Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall
rejoice in time to come.
26* She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue
is the law of kindness.
27* She looketh well to the ways of her household, and
eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband
also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest
them all.
30* Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that
feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
31* Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works
praise her in the gates.
–--
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
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Reg Reg Reg:I don't believe unrestrained capitalism is serving us well at all.
It allows greedy wealthy men to buy seats in government
where they get together and carry out all sorts of pernicious
acts for dreams of empire, or at least, the lining of their, and
their supporters, portfolios.Reg: I would say to you that I don't see the possibility of being
both a Capitalist and a Christian...would seem you'd be
serving two seperate Gods.Only if you love the money as much or more than God, thus
committing idolatry. Otherwise, business is as old as man
and perfectly honorable if carried out in that fashion.Reg: Naughty, naughty from the Christian standpoint...Again, you judge how Christianity believes and/or should
behave, without any supporting evidence. So that you can be
accurate in the future, I provided some authorative excerpts
below.Making money is not evil. Doing good honest business is not
antiChristian. Paul was a tent maker, Jesus a carpenter; do
you think fisherman do not also sell their catch? C'mon Reg.
Even barter is capitalism.I always thought the language of capitalism was bookkeeping.
Tax accounting being what makes it foul.Business as a religion? Assuredly for some, but for most
others, honest self determination. We all gotta earn our keep
somehow:
2Th 3:10* ... if any would not work, neither should he eat.
- PaulYou sound in a bad way today, and I am sorry for your
troubles(if correct) but you've turned Jesus and Christianity
into some sort of Disney dreaminess unrelated to factual
reality. Just like they do wild beasts who are a desirable
characature but equally inaccurate.respects Reg!ps don't miss the final excerpt regarding the traits of a
virtuous woman. It's God's opinion mon ...1Ti 6:10* For THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil: which
while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and
pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
- PaulNote Verse 13, 15, 23, and the error of 21: 11* ¶ And as they heard these things, he added and spake a
parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they
thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12* He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far
country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13* And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten
pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14* But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him,
saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15* And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having
received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to
be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he
might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained
ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because
thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority
over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath
gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy
pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou
takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou
didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I
judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an
austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I
did not sow:
23* Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank,
that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the
pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
25* (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26* For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall
be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall
be taken away from him.
27* But those mine enemies, which would not that I should
reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
- JesusRo 12:11* Not slothful in business; ...
- PaulPr 11:1* A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a
just weight is his delight.
Pr 16:11* A just weight and balance are the LORD’S: all the
weights of the bag are his work.
Pr 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD;
and a false balance is not good.
Note business traits of a virtuous woman, 14, 16, 18, 24, 31:
Pr 31:10* ¶ Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is
far above rubies.
11* The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that
he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13* She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with
her hands.
14* She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food
from afar.
15* She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to
her household, and a portion to her maidens.
16* She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of
her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17* She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth
her arms.
18* She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle
goeth not out by night.
19* She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold
the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth
forth her hands to the needy.
21* She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all
her household are clothed with scarlet.
22* She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is
silk and purple.
23* Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth
among the elders of the land.
24* She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth
girdles unto the merchant.
25* Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall
rejoice in time to come.
26* She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue
is the law of kindness.
27* She looketh well to the ways of her household, and
eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband
also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest
them all.
30* Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that
feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
31* Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works
praise her in the gates.
–--
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
