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How do you define that, Pat? I take it you mean on US soil. I mean America to me includes our troops and they are attacked and killed daily now. Also the terrorists already won.
"Good going there Reg. That is the attitude I like. We have already lost. Next you will be telling me how we should negotiate with them."

I did not say we've lost...I said the "terrorists" won. Win they did, they beat Bushco like a red headed step child. What did Bushco do to retaliate? Mired us in a wasteful war with Iraq that benefits the terrorists and makes the US look weak and pathetic. Again win for the "terrorists"...I know, except for all the "good" we're doing there and "foothold" we now have in the Middle East. Oh yeah, and in your own words because our troops are in Iraq to provide target practice for these "terrorists" that keeps them from attacking us here. If you'd pass your pipe around there, Pat, and we could all get a toke maybe we could see what you mean.

You love that "negotiate with them" line don't you? All your talk show heroes and right wingnuts use that one...do you have any thoughts of your own?

You see they already made the Bush administration look foolish by stunning the world by attacking the WTC buildings and the Pentagon on the same day. After repeated warnings from guys like Richard Clark and other professionals.
"Please, please for Christ sakes please quit using this tired argument.Richard Clark had 8 years to get Clinton to do something, and he did zero, zip, nada, nothing after repeated attacks on the United States."

Awesome...more regurgitated right wingnut talk show babble. Yes yes, that old chestnut about Clinton doing nothing. If you took the time to check the record the Clinton administration did more to address terrorism than any administration before them. Of course that's not saying very much because until the Clinton administration terrorism was not real high on the agenda. Up until Reagan the Cold War ruled the day. So this terrorism stuff was new and Clinton and Richard Clarke were blazing new trails sort of and they did a helluva lot in fact. It was a top priority for the Clinton Administration and they left the White House letting Bushco know that...to which Bushco replyed "Thanks anyway fellas." 

Of course that makes Bushco look bad so we sure as hell don't want to talk about Richard Clarke...nah...let's just enjoy the babble about Clinton having Osama at the end of his rifle and saying, "Just let him go, boys, we can give him therapy and he'll be our pal."

I don't know what's more amusing the lies or the fact you keep repeating them and telling us how you're really in the know.

 Bush took a month off after being on the job for a short 6 and a half months or so. So, how are we safe with the guys that allowed the worst act of terrorism to occur on US soil?

"Did you miss something
Reg? Did 8 years of the Clinton Administration just breeze by the selective memory you seem to have? What were the 1st words when Clinton heard we had been attacked? Actually it was one word Reg, "Osama"."

Um, Pat, that would be because Clinton's administration and Clarke had done so much to address Al Qaeda. The Cole was attacked in October 2000 with just two short months left in Clinton's Presidency they drew up a major campaign to attack and destroy Al Qaeda and then with Bush coming into office handed it to Bushco telling them this "must be your number one priority"...at which point Bushco tossed it aside and went looking for a way to attack Iraq. Your guys love to say Clinton did nothing about the Cole attack which is a whopper of a lie but they have to say it because the truth makes Bushco look terrible. Try reading the record for once and not Coulter, O"Reilly, and all those other baboons. I'm not telling you you have to read Al Franken to find the truth I'm saying go back and look at what is public record and how this "Clinton did nothing" stuff just does not wash. It's a blatent lie and I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of Bill Clinton...it's just the facts.

Why should the terrorists attack here again when it's pretty near impossible to top what they already did? They already showed the world Bushco can't protect us and Bushco stated many times that they can't...remember all that hokum about wrapping your home in plastic and the terrorists only having to be right once?
"Yeah it's funny Reg but they attacked more than once during the Clinton years. Why was that? Could it possibly be that Clinton did absolutely nothing in retaliation. Ya think?"

Sorry Pat, but Clinton did respond. You really need to understand that. Bushco used 9/11 to do what they wanted to do when they took office. They attacked Iraq. Basically doing nothing but helping to further promote terrorism.

Bushco did nothing to secure our ports and borders...the reason we have not been attacked again in the US is because they have not bothered because they are still riding their big victory on 9/11 and that attack has left the US mired in Iraq in a shit storm of epic proportions.
"What color is that KoolAid you are drinking there Reg? You are absolutely living in the land of Oz. You are more naive than I thought."

Oh sorry, that's right...Bushco secured our ports and borders within minutes of the 9/11 attack. What the hell was I thinking? Saddam was the mastermind of the 9/11 attack and Osama had been sleeping on his bedroom floor for at least a year. Bushco attacked Iraq because Saddam was the black heart of Al Qaeda and Iraq was their base of operations. What a fool I've been.

The 9/11 attack is the gift that keeps on giving thanks to Bushco. It has cost us in every way, lives, dollars, credibility, respect, cooperation of other nations...it just goes on and on and on and on and on.
"Reg as time goes on  each one of these so called nations will be attacked. Do you think they will want to ally with the US then? Unfortunately it maybe too late by then because the RI (Radical Islamist) may have taken too much of a stronghold in each of these pacifist nations"

I can see the light now...pacifism is what's wrong with the world! We must bomb every Muslim country until they no longer exist...yes...yes...I think I get it now...it's what Jesus would have done!

"Was'nt there a song by Hank Willams called "Your Bleedin' Heart". If you start in on Dafur I will just have to start in on Rwanda and point out what your side did during that Fisco. 
Send me your address and I will mail out some cheese do go with that whine."

What? You really are a lost soul, Pat. You could care less about Rwanda or Darfur all you care about is which tragedy you can use against "the other side."

That really is one of the most pathetic things you've ever said and I guess shows what matters most to you.

I don't have a "side", Pat. I don't really care about Republicans or Democrats...I care about people. I'm not in some argument with you to try and make Democrats look better than Republicans...that's so damn dumb I don't even know what to say. You seem to be completely over the edge. You've totally lost it. I brought up Darfur because it's happening right now and it's fucking horrific. Sorry for the reality check. I'll let you go back to Rush and O'Reilly now.

"Reg what price is it worth to have stabilization within the middle east say a stronghold in Iraq? It was a noble idea that did not work out"

It was a dumb idea that even George the 1st was against. Again, check the record. Oops, that's right Rush told you what really happened...never mind. 

"As long as we secure those borders with kid gloves, but if we have a group like the Minute Men try to help out, All is a foul.
Reg have you been to Texas lately? Have you? We inherited Katrina. They came here in mass. I would say it was handled appropriately but when you deal with a class of people used to handouts it will not matter what you do, it is never enough."

Pat, they sent Katrina victims to Massachusetts too. No, I have not been to Texas in sometime but the last time I was there a running back from the Patriots was following me through the airport with intent to do me bodily harm so I can say that I did not feel safe. You think the Minute Men would have helped me out if they were around? I only bring this up because I'm trying to go off on some weird tangent that makes no sense because I figure you might relate to that. Maybe we could put a big line of canons along the Mexican border and start carpet bombing the Rio Grande area with some regularity...might help stimulate the economy too. Think of all the jobs we would would create for people who will man the canons and manufacture the bombs.


But you know by the sounds of what you're saying you seem to be rooting for another terrorist attack in the US just so you can blame the Democrats...real sweet of you.
No Reg, I'm stating the obvious. You think San Fran Nan has a clue about defense of the U.S.?

No...let's set the pacifist bitch on fire. Jesus would.

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