OK - you've got me now! What's a DER?

You're right though - we are both married to multi-talented Johns. I'm not underplaying my role - I'm great on the technical side of things - I work out which sires we use. On the practical side however, even though I think I've improved greatly, I still always manage to stand in the wrong spot or open/close the wrong gate at the wrong time. Ask any farmer's wife, and she'll say working the cattle/sheep is divorce material!

You know you are most welcome here any time...