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EEE,My point has been that, in spite of the personal motives of our founders-- and I dispute any blanket assertions that they were evil men--, the documents they passed on to us provide a system in which screams of persons against whom social crimes have been/are being commited are both listened to and acted upon in that glacial evolution of a perfect Union the path toward which this country has been on since its founding.Witness, for example, the 1964 Human rights act. Much of the carnage, you speak of, ended with respect to the disrespect of African Americans and the way they had been treated.I don't for one moment believe that discrimination, racism, and bigotry against certain of our citizens ended with that legislation, but it was proof that morality can be legislated.The mechanism we inherited gave voting rights to women, as another example, but it takes people to run it, to implement it, first by persuasion of the population that something is wrong, eventually by filing lawsuits, then legislation prohibiting that wrong.Above all, I praise the free speech we are guaranteed and the provision of forums such as this one in which to express our observations, our frustrations, and our hopes.
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EEE,My point has been that, in spite of the personal motives of our founders-- and I dispute any blanket assertions that they were evil men--, the documents they passed on to us provide a system in which screams of persons against whom social crimes have been/are being commited are both listened to and acted upon in that glacial evolution of a perfect Union the path toward which this country has been on since its founding.Witness, for example, the 1964 Human rights act. Much of the carnage, you speak of, ended with respect to the disrespect of African Americans and the way they had been treated.I don't for one moment believe that discrimination, racism, and bigotry against certain of our citizens ended with that legislation, but it was proof that morality can be legislated.The mechanism we inherited gave voting rights to women, as another example, but it takes people to run it, to implement it, first by persuasion of the population that something is wrong, eventually by filing lawsuits, then legislation prohibiting that wrong.Above all, I praise the free speech we are guaranteed and the provision of forums such as this one in which to express our observations, our frustrations, and our hopes.
posted 2010.08.18
posted on August 18th 2010
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And on it goes... – EEE on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – messybear on August 17th, 2010-
Re: Coda – messybear on August 19th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – MJG on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Don_Lee on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 20th, 2010
Read Cassandra's post... – EEE on August 18th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – cassandra on August 18th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 18th, 2010-
this will make you feel better Eric – big@l on August 18th, 2010-
Re: this will not make you feel better Eric – mick on August 18th, 2010-
Kind of missed it... – EEE on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – heathcliffe on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – messybear on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – Kevin on August 20th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – messybear on August 21st, 2010
Re: Kind of missed it... – Don_Lee on August 18th, 2010
Re: Kind of missed it... – Andrea on August 22nd, 2010-
What's creepy to me, though... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: What's creepy to me, though... – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Did you even read it? – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – messybear on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – messybear on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 23rd, 2010-
Re: been readin it n readin it for decades – messybear on August 23rd, 2010
I'd say... – Reg on August 25th, 2010
Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – Don_Lee on August 23rd, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – randym on August 19th, 2010-
Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – EEE on August 19th, 2010-
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – MJG on August 19th, 2010
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – randym on August 20th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Dan on August 19th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – mick on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 19th, 2010
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