Peter T.
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You laid out your position incredibly well, PK. I don't dispute your recounting of the history of
America's illegal immigration. And as with all of your posts, you are unfailingly insightful and
polite. I get it how politicians have largely punted on this. They haven't lived up to their oaths of
office. I just don't think what you propose is politically viable.The staggering amount of people who we'd have to deal with would seem to make significant
and meaningful deportation incredibly difficult. Could a significant percentage of the existing
population be deported over the next five to ten years? I don't know, perhaps, but we'd have to
provide far more resources into deportation efforts. Yet even if we did, here's the stumbling block.
I could envision innumerable news stories showing "heartless" INS agents uprooting families from
lives they've built and communities they've become a part of. I could see an enormous public
outcry that would force politicians to swiftly change course. The Democrats won't touch your
plan, PK, and I have to believe that most of the GOP wouldn't either as they desperately seek to
build bridges with an already alienated and ever-growing Hispanic demographic. A demographic
that they need if they ever want to regain the executive branch. Don't get me wrong, for a whole host of reasons, I firmly believe we need to control our borders a
hell of a lot better than we have. And any deal must make this an absolute priority. I get your
anger and frustration, and you may well be correct in your assessment of the entitlement costs
related to this enormous cohort. Still, I'll go with my original proposal as I hope it provides the
best balancing of human decency, political reality, and border security. And shame on me if we're
having this same conversation 5, 10, or 15 years from now. Peter T.
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You laid out your position incredibly well, PK. I don't dispute your recounting of the history of
America's illegal immigration. And as with all of your posts, you are unfailingly insightful and
polite. I get it how politicians have largely punted on this. They haven't lived up to their oaths of
office. I just don't think what you propose is politically viable.The staggering amount of people who we'd have to deal with would seem to make significant
and meaningful deportation incredibly difficult. Could a significant percentage of the existing
population be deported over the next five to ten years? I don't know, perhaps, but we'd have to
provide far more resources into deportation efforts. Yet even if we did, here's the stumbling block.
I could envision innumerable news stories showing "heartless" INS agents uprooting families from
lives they've built and communities they've become a part of. I could see an enormous public
outcry that would force politicians to swiftly change course. The Democrats won't touch your
plan, PK, and I have to believe that most of the GOP wouldn't either as they desperately seek to
build bridges with an already alienated and ever-growing Hispanic demographic. A demographic
that they need if they ever want to regain the executive branch. Don't get me wrong, for a whole host of reasons, I firmly believe we need to control our borders a
hell of a lot better than we have. And any deal must make this an absolute priority. I get your
anger and frustration, and you may well be correct in your assessment of the entitlement costs
related to this enormous cohort. Still, I'll go with my original proposal as I hope it provides the
best balancing of human decency, political reality, and border security. And shame on me if we're
having this same conversation 5, 10, or 15 years from now. Peter T.
posted 2015.07.14
posted on July 14th 2015
Peter T.
location: New Hampshire
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Speaking of guns... – dale on July 2nd, 2015-
Re: Speaking of guns... – Dan on July 2nd, 2015-
Input from EEE? – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015-
I've given up on the gun debate.... – EEE on July 2nd, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – randym on July 2nd, 2015
Not a gun-rights question, EEE... – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015-
Given it some thought... – EEE on July 3rd, 2015-
Thanks EEE! – Peter T. on July 3rd, 2015
Re: Given it some thought... – randym on July 4th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Marc on July 7th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – messybear on July 20th, 2015-
Re: given the gun debate... – messybear on July 26th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015-
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – dale on July 9th, 2015-
Hypocrisy and Intolerance – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015
Dale is right... – Reg on July 12th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – randym on July 10th, 2015
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