Peter T.
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Here's a perspective from a true conservative, Andrew Sullivan:My take on this morning's drama: for millions of people, this will mean one thing. They will have an
opportunity to purchase healthcare that would otherwise be denied them because of a pre-existing
condition or simply lack of means to buy it. This has been done through the private health
insurance sector along lines many Republicans were proud of until very recently. And this is a good
thing.The fact that there is no constitutional issue in doing this federally, as opposed to by the states,
also removes Mitt Romney's only argument in defense of his own almost identical law in
Massachusetts. And so the GOP candidate will be running against his own record in his own state
on no rational grounds whatever. And against a Chief Justice appointed by George W. Bush.But that matters less to me than that someone in America who once had to suffer in silence may
now get some help to tackle her health issues. For me, that's a moral principle. Much more needs to
be done, specifically in restraining healthcare costs and reforming Medicare. But the core beginning
of this process will be getting everyone in the same boat. That now seems unstoppable. So Obama's
first term remains historic. And his re-election to cement this change essential.Peter T. Comment: From the get-go, I've been struck by the hypocrisy of those on the right who
consider themselves to be religious. You know, the allegedly love thy neighbor crowd. Their guy,
President Bush, didn't make universal healthcare coverage a priority, nor did his compatriots in
Congress. What could be more Christ-like than to insure that all Americans have access to a doctor.
I'm sure there are problems, possibly big ones, with Obamacare (I hate that term) but it's a start,
and hopefully it will improve as time goes on. But dammit, I am proud to live in a country that
values all of its citizens and I have no problem paying higher taxes if that's necessary.
Peter T.
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Here's a perspective from a true conservative, Andrew Sullivan:My take on this morning's drama: for millions of people, this will mean one thing. They will have an
opportunity to purchase healthcare that would otherwise be denied them because of a pre-existing
condition or simply lack of means to buy it. This has been done through the private health
insurance sector along lines many Republicans were proud of until very recently. And this is a good
thing.The fact that there is no constitutional issue in doing this federally, as opposed to by the states,
also removes Mitt Romney's only argument in defense of his own almost identical law in
Massachusetts. And so the GOP candidate will be running against his own record in his own state
on no rational grounds whatever. And against a Chief Justice appointed by George W. Bush.But that matters less to me than that someone in America who once had to suffer in silence may
now get some help to tackle her health issues. For me, that's a moral principle. Much more needs to
be done, specifically in restraining healthcare costs and reforming Medicare. But the core beginning
of this process will be getting everyone in the same boat. That now seems unstoppable. So Obama's
first term remains historic. And his re-election to cement this change essential.Peter T. Comment: From the get-go, I've been struck by the hypocrisy of those on the right who
consider themselves to be religious. You know, the allegedly love thy neighbor crowd. Their guy,
President Bush, didn't make universal healthcare coverage a priority, nor did his compatriots in
Congress. What could be more Christ-like than to insure that all Americans have access to a doctor.
I'm sure there are problems, possibly big ones, with Obamacare (I hate that term) but it's a start,
and hopefully it will improve as time goes on. But dammit, I am proud to live in a country that
values all of its citizens and I have no problem paying higher taxes if that's necessary.
posted 2012.06.28
posted on June 28th 2012
Peter T.
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So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Marc on June 28th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – randym on June 28th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Dan on June 28th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – randym on June 28th, 2012
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Green Mtn on July 4th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – edlorah on July 5th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – cassandra on July 5th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – edlorah on July 5th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Green Mtn on July 6th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – edlorah on July 6th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Green Mtn on July 15th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – edlorah on July 15th, 2012-
Re: So in a nutshell (Obamacare) – Green Mtn on July 19th, 2012
Your Thoughts, GM – Peter T. on July 6th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Dan on July 9th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – edlorah on July 9th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – edlorah on July 11th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Dan on July 11th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – edlorah on July 12th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – edlorah on July 12th, 2012-
We aren't here to fight, we are here to dance... – Peter T. on July 13th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 15th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Peter T. on July 16th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 19th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – heathcliffe on July 17th, 2012-
Prescient Post? – Peter T. on July 17th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 19th, 2012
Jesus save me from your followers .... – edlorah on July 15th, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – Green Mtn on July 19th, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – edlorah on July 19th, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – Andrea on July 20th, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – rosskolnikov on July 21st, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – heathcliffe on July 21st, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – Dan on July 22nd, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – heathcliffe on July 23rd, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – heathcliffe on July 24th, 2012
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – messybear on July 25th, 2012-
Heathcliffe – Andrea on July 25th, 2012
Messybear – Peter T. on July 25th, 2012-
Peter T – messybear on July 25th, 2012
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – heathcliffe on July 25th, 2012-
afro our followers.... – messybear on July 29th, 2012
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – mick on July 23rd, 2012-
Re: Jesus save me from your followers .... – Green Mtn on July 31st, 2012-
Re: Jeez! Save me from your flowers .... – messybear on August 3rd, 2012-
Re: Jeez! Save me flowers .... – Herring405 on August 3rd, 2012
Re: Jeez! Save me from your flowers .... – Green Mtn on August 4th, 2012-
Re: Jeez! Save me from your flowers .... – Green Mtn on August 7th, 2012-
Re: Jeez! Save me from your flowers .... – messybear on August 7th, 2012
Re: Jeez! Save me from your flowers .... – mick on August 7th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 23rd, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – pkjensen on July 24th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – pkjensen on July 26th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 31st, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – pkjensen on August 1st, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on August 4th, 2012-
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – mick on August 5th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – pkjensen on August 6th, 2012-
All this debating reminds me of this Monty Python gem: – Peter T. on August 7th, 2012
Re: Your Thoughts, GM – Green Mtn on July 31st, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Peter T. on July 31st, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Green Mtn on July 31st, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Peter T. on August 1st, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – mick on August 2nd, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – pkjensen on August 3rd, 2012-
Re: Thought.. – messybear on August 3rd, 2012
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Green Mtn on August 4th, 2012
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Green Mtn on August 4th, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Kathryn on August 5th, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – mick on August 5th, 2012-
Re: Your Final Thought, GM – Kathryn on August 5th, 2012
Re: Out In Out, GeneralMotors – messybear on August 5th, 2012-
Re: Out In Out, GeneralMotors – mick on August 5th, 2012
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