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"I was nothing short of furious when the NRA crowd began suggesting having paid armed guards at every school...perhaps one of the worst and most disgusting ideas I had ever heard. I tried to allow for the fact that people do overreact to tragedies and can say and do some crazy things in the aftermath.
It was a little hard to fathom though that there were people that actually believed that the solution to a shooting in a school was to put more guns in the school.
Once you head down that path the question again becomes "Where does it end?"
Do you surround every school with 20 foot fence and barbed wire? Build guard towers and place snipers in them? Have a gated entrance to the parking lot with armed guards and dogs to search every car that enters? Do we want to send our children to a maximum security prison each day rather than a school? Every person is searched and goes through a TSA style check to enter the building. Bag searches, random full body cavity searches, interrogation rooms to take people for further questioning...and maybe some water boarding if the "paid security staff" is not getting the answers they wanted...
If we do this at schools why not movie theaters and shopping malls? Hospitals and restaurants?"
That does seem to be the rub, Reg. We still are sum backward-assed society. Lines drawn in the sand. Alcohol to rouse the inner rabble, a mob to strengthen our misguided resolve, and no real attunement to the illumination that has not once stopped lighting the darkness all around us. If we only took the time to notice. The Lakota knew it, lived it, saw it fall to chains.
Now any of us can circle around the globe west from here to London and see the atrocities being fueled, the ire being fed, the mountains cut into flat plateaus for the love of fuel & plastics, but it really is only HERE where the love of a semi-automatic, the sound of the report, the feel of the kick, the stopping of the heart, the cleansing of the clear waters with the blood of innocence is just as important if not more important yet ..than the feeding of starving children, or the healing of disease (That's not to forgive the mindless bloodshed in Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, the lot, but there is a weakness here in the States fueled by corporate greed & base-hatred among the people, and strengthened by your local hometown gun collectors). I’ve not said nearly enough. Tried to build a bridge linking the best intentions of both sides of this argument. I failed. But hey..
At least the discussion continues. Now if only something actually meaningful to the greater good of humanities will come of it more sooner than later. In the meantime, don’t get hit by flying bullets.
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intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
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"I was nothing short of furious when the NRA crowd began suggesting having paid armed guards at every school...perhaps one of the worst and most disgusting ideas I had ever heard. I tried to allow for the fact that people do overreact to tragedies and can say and do some crazy things in the aftermath.
It was a little hard to fathom though that there were people that actually believed that the solution to a shooting in a school was to put more guns in the school.
Once you head down that path the question again becomes "Where does it end?"
Do you surround every school with 20 foot fence and barbed wire? Build guard towers and place snipers in them? Have a gated entrance to the parking lot with armed guards and dogs to search every car that enters? Do we want to send our children to a maximum security prison each day rather than a school? Every person is searched and goes through a TSA style check to enter the building. Bag searches, random full body cavity searches, interrogation rooms to take people for further questioning...and maybe some water boarding if the "paid security staff" is not getting the answers they wanted...
If we do this at schools why not movie theaters and shopping malls? Hospitals and restaurants?"
That does seem to be the rub, Reg. We still are sum backward-assed society. Lines drawn in the sand. Alcohol to rouse the inner rabble, a mob to strengthen our misguided resolve, and no real attunement to the illumination that has not once stopped lighting the darkness all around us. If we only took the time to notice. The Lakota knew it, lived it, saw it fall to chains.
Now any of us can circle around the globe west from here to London and see the atrocities being fueled, the ire being fed, the mountains cut into flat plateaus for the love of fuel & plastics, but it really is only HERE where the love of a semi-automatic, the sound of the report, the feel of the kick, the stopping of the heart, the cleansing of the clear waters with the blood of innocence is just as important if not more important yet ..than the feeding of starving children, or the healing of disease (That's not to forgive the mindless bloodshed in Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, the lot, but there is a weakness here in the States fueled by corporate greed & base-hatred among the people, and strengthened by your local hometown gun collectors). I’ve not said nearly enough. Tried to build a bridge linking the best intentions of both sides of this argument. I failed. But hey..
At least the discussion continues. Now if only something actually meaningful to the greater good of humanities will come of it more sooner than later. In the meantime, don’t get hit by flying bullets.
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intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
posted 2013.02.04
posted on February 4th 2013
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Let's talk about gun control – Marc on January 5th, 2013-
Re: Let's talk about gun control – big@l on January 6th, 2013-
Re: Let's talk about gun control – Marc on January 6th, 2013
Re: Let's talk about gun control – edlorah on January 6th, 2013
The reason why.... – EEE on January 6th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – randym on January 7th, 2013-
It's much, much deeper.... – EEE on January 7th, 2013-
Re: It's much, much deeper.... – randym on January 7th, 2013
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – pkjensen on January 7th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – randym on January 7th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – edlorah on January 8th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – edlorah on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – big@l on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – edlorah on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – Peter T. on January 10th, 2013
Re: Let's talk about gun control – Andrea on January 8th, 2013-
Outta Here – Peter T. on January 8th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – EEE on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 10th, 2013
Again...you prove my point.... – EEE on January 11th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Andrea on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 12th, 2013
this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – messybear on January 14th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Dan on January 14th, 2013
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 14th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – messybear on January 15th, 2013
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 15th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Kathryn on January 16th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Andrea on January 12th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 11th, 2013
Re: Outta Here – Dan on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Dan on January 11th, 2013-
Good article on guns and NRA...what I've been saying for years... – EEE on January 11th, 2013-
Money For Something – Peter T. on January 11th, 2013
Re: Good article on guns and NRA...what I've been saying for years... – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Marc.....why don't you just stick your head up.... – EEE on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Marc.....why don't you just stick your head up.... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
I'm done...you are a waste of my time... – EEE on January 12th, 2013-
Re: I'm done...you are a waste of my time... – Marc on January 12th, 2013
Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
not Sorry, This is gonna smoke a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 13th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 13th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 15th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 19th, 2013-
Try reading today's idiots with guns round-up... – Reg on January 19th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 28th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – heathcliffe on January 30th, 2013
Let's start with your opening gambit, Marc... – Reg on January 19th, 2013
How sick are some of these gun owners groups... – Reg on January 19th, 2013-
If you were to, how would you reply to this cogent opinion, Marc? – messybear on February 10th, 2013-
Since Marc is not going to reply I'll offer this on his behalf...and really fasten your seatbelts... – Reg on February 13th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 17th, 2013-
Don't know what to tell you, Mess... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Don't know what to tell you, Mess... – Marc on January 18th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 18th, 2013
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 12th, 2013-
yeah but – big@l on January 13th, 2013-
Re: yeah but – Kathryn on January 13th, 2013-
Article released today – Kathryn on January 13th, 2013
Here's a video for you while you are waiting to be enslaved, Marc... – Reg on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Here's a video for you while you are waiting to be enslaved, Marc... – Dslacker on January 26th, 2013
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