I get what your guys are saying and I also have no use for all that nonsense, but with somebody like Marc and the things he says in this thread that are not true, and we all pointed out these things to him here, those really are not his lies. They are the lies that Trump and right wing media tell and repeat, over and over and over. So, by the time it filters down to a person like Marc it is just something he is repeating likely because he has heard it so many times. 

When Trump tells them, they are self-serving lies, when they tell them in the media they are blatant lies because they are most definitely telling them to con people and they tell them knowing they are not true. Same with Republican politicians, they tell these lies knowing they are not true.

So, do you guys think Marc knows the things he is saying are not true and is saying them with the intent to con us? I would think he would know when he comes here, he is going to get confronted by some facts. The people posting here, particularly the group we have now, are pretty well read into what has taken place. 

Marc repeated stuff directly from the weird right media narrative about the "Steele dossier" and they always leave out that was created at the behest of Republicans. They wanted that research on Trump. He repeated lies that Trump tells about his crimes. He repeats the stuff that Trump says about the prosecutors, judges, and for the love of god, Joe Biden, being at fault for Trump's legal problems. If you listen to Trump nothing is ever his fault. According to him, he just goes around making everything the greatest it has ever been. 

I do not mean to make you guys endure more of that nonsense, I am trying to engage Marc to see if he has or will give any thought to the actual facts. Maybe he won't but how do we know until we ask him and we try to put some things in front of him that maybe make him think. 

I know we've done it over and over here, but Kevin came around. 

My thought was if he is coming here to talk to us, maybe he is listening to us. If he wanted to shut us out completely, he just does not have to come here at all.