Honestly, man, how can you support this gang in the Bush world? This is the worst, most obvious, most self-deluding, destructive, hypocritical, cynical, fearmongering, incompetent, divisive, self-serving, ruthless, backwards, rapacious, two-faced, totalitarian, greedy, short-sighted, criminal bunch of marauders to ever hold the White House, and that's really saying something.
Damn David so many derogitory words and all in one sentence. Sure your not talking about the Clinton administration?
That is exactly the kind of response that does NOT address the question. And for good measure throws in the whipping boy for the GOP, you can do better. If I had to chose, (and sadly I have a choice) I'd take an Oral Sex lie over a lie that leads us to a highly questionable"war" anytime. I would also venture to guess that the terms David used were desriptive, not derogitory. The actions of this administration are screaming out to be examined and no major voice, including the alleged "liberal media", is doing a very good job of asking tough questions. And straight answers??.... Forget it. The answer to almost all of the questions that should be being asked.....is Oil.
The liberal media does not answer question they are just a propaganda machine. Tell me the last time you saw a positive piece on the war
I mean Harding wasnt above running the federal government like it was his own ATM, but at least he wasnt lobbying for totalitarian control. I'm not entirely naive--I dont expect poltics to be the province of some ascended species of saintly philosophers, but keerist!, this goes far beyond any garden variety graft and sex-party type of Administration. These people seem to be genuinely totalitarian in their thinking, and utterly ruthless and contemptuous of important truths or consequences in their sales pitch to the public.
Totalitarian thinking is that what they call doing what you believe in unilaterally? The sex-party only sent out troops to divert the Lewinsky thing as I recall.
How about doing whats right, as opposed to doing whats profitable.And please Pat raise the chance that you will be taken seriously by calling a liberal a liberal or a Democrat a Democrat. "The sex-party" ?? Come on, please elevate the level of your argument.
Look up a little higher in the post there Roger. You will see David raised that term not me.
What do you like about these people? What is it that they stand for to you? I ask this out of genuine curiousity, cause I just can't understand what people like about this crew.
Even you don't have an answer for this one.
You mean I have to like them and give reasons? You dispise them so because they are pro war. I respect them for the same reasons. Different perspective
How can we see such different qualities in the same people? I just simply don't get it.
Because we have vastly different perspectives
Which is fine but you need to hear or at least acknowledge the rising voices of dissent. Your dismissal without question is the type of thinking that got us where we are right now. A fictitious President running a fictitious war.
Roger I heard daily about terrorist this and terrorist that before 9/11 so I would call them phony. Were they an immediate threat to the U.S.? Doubtful. Do I still support the war on Terrorism. Absolutely
Can you explain to me what's attractive about, say Karl Rove and Dick Cheney? or John Ashcroft? or even jolly old Rummy?
You mean like taking care of the ugly details surrounding the war?
What you call "ugly details" I consider massive ass covering, and spin. keep repeating the lie long enough and loud enough people get tired of hearing it and begin to accept the position. Sad but true.
Pat you provide glib responses to serious questions. I doesn't help you or your level of credability and it certainly doesn't help OUR troops that are being killed daily, so that our country can continue its dependence on a finite supply of oil, rather than looking for cleaner, cheaper alternatives.
Do you even know anybody who is over there, fighting for you? Dying for you. So that we can protect the world from a man who had nothing to do with 9/11, nor does he seem to have any WMD's.
Why are we there?????? What are we achieving. What is the ultimate goal? and where are Osama & Saddaam while we're at it. We can shoot a missle down a chimney (granted it might be a school chimney) but we can find two well known international leaders?????
Yes I know people over there. Not family members so I cant fully empathize with them. The agenda has always been a stability point that we control in the middle east. At what cost we are willing to give to get that? This is the question. You and the choir up here can call this a fake war, Bush a liar, Chaney a goober, Ashcroft a buffoom but it does not change the basic fact that the world has a problem with Terrorism and a hell of lot of these terrorist hate (like liberals) Americans.
You can paint the reason why they hate us in any way you want to. They hate us because we are bullies, they hate us because we have a different religion, they hate us because we have more money...whatever. This is not fake and this is not a lie. Eventually if we continue to take the passive route (why are we in Iraq???) their like will start showing up on our soil and reeking havoc...this is a given. Now we have two choices...put our head in the sand and chant combaya or do something about it. I prefer the latter.
