Marc
location: Columbus, OH
listening to: gloating democrats...and that's ok, they earned it.
registered: 2001.11.02
posts: 1067
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I'm nothing like Alex Jones. He's an asshole, I definately don't pay attention to him because he does make gun owners look bad. and I most certainly haven't said anything here that sounds like him.
Piers Morgan is an asshole too that has no idea what he is talking about either. He has NO business talking about an American culture or an American right that he knows nothing about. But apparently some Americans (like you) buy his schtick. They are both showmen though and that's it at the end of the day though.
But, like you, everybody in this thread seems to want to pigeon hole me as some kind of gun nut. As if to say that anybody that owns a gun is one. But that is very far from the truth and I've only been trying to help you understand the culture of it, because you clearly hold that sterotype even if it is wrong.
First of all, I no longer hunt for sport or for food. I stopped about 20 years ago. The reason why is because I was very good at it but once I started to waste meat (because I had too much), I knew I was doing it for the wrong reasons (never wanted to do it for sport) and just stopped doing it altogether. I most certainly know and respect the reasons for doing it though. And I still WILL have no problem killing anything that threatens my livestock, pets, myself or family. Nowadays that is mostly coyote, but could very possibly also include some nefarious meth head that breaks into the home with ill intent. Thankfully, the latter hasn't happened. But I'd be ready if it did. I will also shoot pests such as rats in the barn, groundhogs tearing up foundations or even occasionally a pesky possum, but even those I just run off unless they start damaging stuff.
I learned about guns at an early age though and before I could have one, my parents made sure I had been through ODNR hunter safety courses (Dad even did them with me) and was taught everything about firearm handling and safety. I very much enjoy them as a hobby but mostly use them for sport and target practice nowadays. I'm not the kind of guy that would even think of using them against people (unless in self defense) and so I am naturally disturbed by this administration's latest push to restrict them again, punishing millions of us for a few nutjobs that weren't raised right. How is that fair? Is it fair because YOU don't understand, see a need, fear guns? I don't know.
For the rest of this thread, how about you guys stop comparing me to people I am not, whether that is Alex Jones or your own fantasy stereotype and just address my talking points? I've noticed that only Peter has done that so far and that is fair.
ETA: Here is Piers talking to someone (tonight) that is much like me. Ben Shipiro. Ben gets it. Piers does not and indeed tries to bully him, which is the tactic that you want to use against me as well. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not get? Piers clearly doesn't understand because he's a brit so I don't expect him to, but I do expect better from you (hopefully) Americans.http://www.therightscoop.com/masterful-breitbarts-ben-shapiro-torches-piers-morgan-and-his-straw-men/
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I'm nothing like Alex Jones. He's an asshole, I definately don't pay attention to him because he does make gun owners look bad. and I most certainly haven't said anything here that sounds like him.
Piers Morgan is an asshole too that has no idea what he is talking about either. He has NO business talking about an American culture or an American right that he knows nothing about. But apparently some Americans (like you) buy his schtick. They are both showmen though and that's it at the end of the day though.
But, like you, everybody in this thread seems to want to pigeon hole me as some kind of gun nut. As if to say that anybody that owns a gun is one. But that is very far from the truth and I've only been trying to help you understand the culture of it, because you clearly hold that sterotype even if it is wrong.
First of all, I no longer hunt for sport or for food. I stopped about 20 years ago. The reason why is because I was very good at it but once I started to waste meat (because I had too much), I knew I was doing it for the wrong reasons (never wanted to do it for sport) and just stopped doing it altogether. I most certainly know and respect the reasons for doing it though. And I still WILL have no problem killing anything that threatens my livestock, pets, myself or family. Nowadays that is mostly coyote, but could very possibly also include some nefarious meth head that breaks into the home with ill intent. Thankfully, the latter hasn't happened. But I'd be ready if it did. I will also shoot pests such as rats in the barn, groundhogs tearing up foundations or even occasionally a pesky possum, but even those I just run off unless they start damaging stuff.
I learned about guns at an early age though and before I could have one, my parents made sure I had been through ODNR hunter safety courses (Dad even did them with me) and was taught everything about firearm handling and safety. I very much enjoy them as a hobby but mostly use them for sport and target practice nowadays. I'm not the kind of guy that would even think of using them against people (unless in self defense) and so I am naturally disturbed by this administration's latest push to restrict them again, punishing millions of us for a few nutjobs that weren't raised right. How is that fair? Is it fair because YOU don't understand, see a need, fear guns? I don't know.
For the rest of this thread, how about you guys stop comparing me to people I am not, whether that is Alex Jones or your own fantasy stereotype and just address my talking points? I've noticed that only Peter has done that so far and that is fair.
ETA: Here is Piers talking to someone (tonight) that is much like me. Ben Shipiro. Ben gets it. Piers does not and indeed tries to bully him, which is the tactic that you want to use against me as well. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not get? Piers clearly doesn't understand because he's a brit so I don't expect him to, but I do expect better from you (hopefully) Americans.http://www.therightscoop.com/masterful-breitbarts-ben-shapiro-torches-piers-morgan-and-his-straw-men/
posted 2013.01.11
posted on January 11th 2013
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Marc
location: Columbus, OH
listening to: gloating democrats...and that's ok, they earned it.
registered: 2001.11.02
posts: 1067
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Let's talk about gun control – Marc on January 5th, 2013-
Re: Let's talk about gun control – big@l on January 6th, 2013-
Re: Let's talk about gun control – Marc on January 6th, 2013
Re: Let's talk about gun control – edlorah on January 6th, 2013
The reason why.... – EEE on January 6th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – randym on January 7th, 2013-
It's much, much deeper.... – EEE on January 7th, 2013-
Re: It's much, much deeper.... – randym on January 7th, 2013
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – pkjensen on January 7th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – randym on January 7th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – edlorah on January 8th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Re: The reason why....Ok Eric – edlorah on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – big@l on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – edlorah on January 9th, 2013-
Re: Marc can you please give me – Peter T. on January 10th, 2013
Re: Let's talk about gun control – Andrea on January 8th, 2013-
Outta Here – Peter T. on January 8th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Marc on January 9th, 2013-
Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – EEE on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 10th, 2013
Again...you prove my point.... – EEE on January 11th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Andrea on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 12th, 2013
this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – messybear on January 14th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Dan on January 14th, 2013
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – edlorah on January 14th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – messybear on January 15th, 2013
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 15th, 2013-
Re: this reply is again why we should discuss guns and violence... – Kathryn on January 16th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Andrea on January 12th, 2013
Re: Again...this reply is again why we can't discuss guns and violence... – Marc on January 11th, 2013
Re: Outta Here – Dan on January 10th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Re: Outta Here – Dan on January 11th, 2013-
Good article on guns and NRA...what I've been saying for years... – EEE on January 11th, 2013-
Money For Something – Peter T. on January 11th, 2013
Re: Good article on guns and NRA...what I've been saying for years... – Marc on January 11th, 2013-
Marc.....why don't you just stick your head up.... – EEE on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Marc.....why don't you just stick your head up.... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
I'm done...you are a waste of my time... – EEE on January 12th, 2013-
Re: I'm done...you are a waste of my time... – Marc on January 12th, 2013
Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
not Sorry, This is gonna smoke a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 13th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 13th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 15th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 19th, 2013-
Try reading today's idiots with guns round-up... – Reg on January 19th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 28th, 2013-
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – heathcliffe on January 30th, 2013
Let's start with your opening gambit, Marc... – Reg on January 19th, 2013
How sick are some of these gun owners groups... – Reg on January 19th, 2013-
If you were to, how would you reply to this cogent opinion, Marc? – messybear on February 10th, 2013-
Since Marc is not going to reply I'll offer this on his behalf...and really fasten your seatbelts... – Reg on February 13th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 17th, 2013-
Don't know what to tell you, Mess... – Reg on January 17th, 2013-
Re: Don't know what to tell you, Mess... – Marc on January 18th, 2013
Re: Sorry, Marc, this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 18th, 2013
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – Marc on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – edlorah on January 12th, 2013-
Re: Sorry . . . this is gonna sound a little harsh but...well...you asked for it... – messybear on January 12th, 2013-
yeah but – big@l on January 13th, 2013-
Re: yeah but – Kathryn on January 13th, 2013-
Article released today – Kathryn on January 13th, 2013
Here's a video for you while you are waiting to be enslaved, Marc... – Reg on January 19th, 2013-
Re: Here's a video for you while you are waiting to be enslaved, Marc... – Dslacker on January 26th, 2013
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