Big Fat Freddy
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But you are missing the bigger picture. The abuse was widespread and systematic. All the focus on the bad apples confuses the issue and takes you away from the reality that the conduct was not only condoned but encouraged. It's the secrecy element of this war that is preventing the truth from getting out, and consequently all we get on this end is denial that such treatment was routine and expected. The whole point was to demoralize and basically scare the shit out of the captives, let them know we mean business, let them tell their friends not to f### with us etc. It's part of the psychological warfare we've heard about but haven't been privy to the details - because they are secret. And the hypocrisy is that they throw the ignorant young gal England in jail and wash their hands of the story - and try to prevent any further leaks of abuse.
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But you are missing the bigger picture. The abuse was widespread and systematic. All the focus on the bad apples confuses the issue and takes you away from the reality that the conduct was not only condoned but encouraged. It's the secrecy element of this war that is preventing the truth from getting out, and consequently all we get on this end is denial that such treatment was routine and expected. The whole point was to demoralize and basically scare the shit out of the captives, let them know we mean business, let them tell their friends not to f### with us etc. It's part of the psychological warfare we've heard about but haven't been privy to the details - because they are secret. And the hypocrisy is that they throw the ignorant young gal England in jail and wash their hands of the story - and try to prevent any further leaks of abuse.
posted 2005.10.20
posted on October 20th 2005
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Big Fat Freddy
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Frontline: Anyone watch it last night? – MadDog on October 19th, 2005-
Re: Frontline: Anyone watch it last night? – Big Fat Freddy on October 19th, 2005
Re: "Sickening and sad" – dale on October 19th, 2005-
Re: – Big Fat Freddy on October 19th, 2005
left, right... whatever – kravitz on October 19th, 2005-
Amen – Big Fat Freddy on October 19th, 2005
Re: left, right... whatever – dale on October 19th, 2005-
Re: left, right... whatever – Big Fat Freddy on October 19th, 2005-
Hustler Magazine? – PatBrown on October 19th, 2005-
Re: Hustler Magazine? – dale on October 19th, 2005-
Re: Hustler Magazine? – Big Fat Freddy on October 19th, 2005-
Re: Hustler Magazine? – Andrea on October 20th, 2005
It Took... – Green Mtn on October 20th, 2005-
Re: Bush brought 'em down!!! – dale on October 20th, 2005-
Is that your conclusion Dale? – Green Mtn on October 20th, 2005
Briefly Grn Mtn....I'd be interested to read your thoughts, but... – EEE on October 20th, 2005-
Re: Briefly Grn Mtn....I'd be interested to read your thoughts, but... – Green Mtn on October 21st, 2005
I Tried EEE – Green Mtn on October 24th, 2005
Re: Sickening and sad – Steve1 on October 19th, 2005-
Re: Sickening and sad – Big Fat Freddy on October 20th, 2005-
Sickening and sad, so let's do it too!!!! – kravitz on October 20th, 2005-
Re: Let's apply Peter T's logic.... – dale on October 20th, 2005-
Re: Let's apply Peter T's logic.... – Big Fat Freddy on October 20th, 2005-
Geez, Dale, you quote me and now I gotta play catch-up on this thread! – Peter T. on October 21st, 2005-
Re: Geez, Dale, you quote me and now I gotta play catch-up on this thread! – big@l on October 21st, 2005
Re: Peter – dale on October 21st, 2005-
And still no rebuttal – Green Mtn on October 21st, 2005-
Re: And still no rebuttal – dale on October 21st, 2005-
Re: And still no rebuttal – Big Fat Freddy on October 21st, 2005-
Re: And still no rebuttal – edlorah on October 21st, 2005-
Re: And still no rebuttal – Big Fat Freddy on October 22nd, 2005
Re: Peter – edlorah on October 21st, 2005
If the Idiot in Chief had done the right thing.. – EEE on October 19th, 2005
Re: Frontline: Anyone watch it last night? – PatBrown on October 19th, 2005
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